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Forum topic by BerBer5985 posted 09-18-2012 12:44 PM 3206 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BerBer5985

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09-18-2012 12:44 PM

I’ve been selling off tools that I don’t use much in an attempt to save up for a new table saw. Right now I have a Delta Contractor Saw with I think the type 1 fence. I bought it for $75, cleaned the top, use the factory splitter and blade gauge, bought a PALS, link belt, and machined pullies, and an alignment adjuster kit and so far, for the past year and a half, it’s served me well, but of course, once you get into the hobby, then you want to upgrade. When making a couple cabinets just recently, I realized how nice it would be to have a greater than 30” rip capacity. Also, I’d love to have a saw with a real riving knife and a left tilt blade. I was leaning towards purchasing this grizzly cabinet saw: http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-3HP-220V-Cabinet-Table-Saw-with-Long-Rails-Riving-Knife/G0691 , which I heard good reviews on and seems like a lot of saw for the money. Then I also thought that I could upgrade my current table saw with either a delta T2 fence with longer rails for beisemeyer fence and then also put a bench dog router table extension on as well for about half the price. If it was you, what would you do? Save a little more and get the new cabinet saw and then sell the Delta to recoup some of the cost, or invest more into the Delta contractor saw?

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com


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HorizontalMike

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#1 posted 09-18-2012 12:57 PM

I DID purchase a G0690 when I was shopping for my first REAL tablesaw. I say, make the jump! You will NOT regret going the full cabinet saw route, IMO. I feel that Grizzly gave me the biggest bang-for-buck out there.
For me, buying used was not in the cards. I liked the “new” style tool-less removable riving knife for its performance and ease of use.

At first I too thought I wanted the greater ripping capacity, but I have NOT found that to be the case as a hobbiest. One suggestion though—Be prepared to replace the “stock” steel extension with something more substantial like MDF. The steel is quite flexible an not worthy of such a TS, IMO.

AND JUST FOR SHOW-OFF SAKE:

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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BerBer5985

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#2 posted 09-18-2012 01:07 PM

My my that’s pretty! Well just looking at that with the router table extension on it seems like a great way to spend $2000. I may have to do the same thing. I find myself never using my router bevause it’s on a portable table stored away and having to dig it out everytime is too much work. I think if it was attached to the table saw ready to go at a moments notice with a router lift attached that it would get much more use. Thanks for the picture!

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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Roger

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#3 posted 09-18-2012 01:17 PM

I’m sure one o these days I’ll may have to get a new ts. I can understand your situation. It is a coin toss to buy new, or used. There are a lot of good used equipment out there in cyberland. If you’re like me, and if you’re at the right place at the right time, you’ll wind up with something used at a gr8 buy, and/or, you’ll wind up buyin you a new one. I think, either way, you win. Good luck with which ever you do. I would also say in either instance, there will be a tweak er 2 here or there no matter what.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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JesseTutt

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#4 posted 09-18-2012 01:39 PM

I have the Delta contractor’s saw that I have upgraded (PALS alignment, new pulleys & belt, Incra LS-TS fence). If I were to find a pot of gold or bag of money in the back yard I might consider upgrading the saw, otherwise I will remain happy with what I have.

With the LS-TS fence you can install the rails and fence on the right or left side, so you can have a right tilt blade without tilting the blade towards the fence.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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NiteWalker

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#5 posted 09-18-2012 02:26 PM

I have a delta contractor saw as well. Mine came with the T2 fence and it’s served me well.
I though about upgrading to a bies fence, BORK, new mobile base, etc., but decided to keep using it until I can save enough for a new one. I’ll be replacing the switch sometime this week as it’s become iffy. It did this not too long ago and I cleaned it and it worked for a while, but now it’s doing the same again so I’ll think I’ll replace the switch with one of the spares I have.

I have my heart set on either one of steel city’s 110 volt cabinet saws or if I can get 220 in the shop the grizzly G1023RL.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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Grandpa

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#6 posted 09-18-2012 02:43 PM

Nitewalker, you might talk to H-Mike about that saw. I think he had a story on LJ about ordering a G1023 then something happened and he changed to the G0690. I believe he said he was glad he made the change so he might be a good source of information. I can’t really comment on either since I have never used either of them but he has so I would talk to him before I ordered anything. I know this is in the future for you but don’t forget him.

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HorizontalMike

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#7 posted 09-18-2012 03:38 PM

Grandpa,
I had switched to the G0690 because of an extended pre-release backorder backlog. I would have been one of the first to get the “then newest” upgrade of the 1023, the G1023RLX. I got tired of waiting and that was it. It looks like the G1023R’s have turned out well and have performed well for those who now have them.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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knotscott

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#8 posted 09-18-2012 04:08 PM

A saw like your Delta contractor saw is all you really “need” for hobby level work, but once you’ve experience the mass, power, and ease of operation of something like a 3hp cabinet saw, I doubt you’ll ever have any regrets if it’s within budget and you have the electrical capability to run it. I made a similar upgrade a few years ago, and really enjoy using the big saw. It’s kind of like upgrading golf clubs or a boat….the golfing and fishing don’t improve, but the experience sure does. The Griz G1023RL is currently on sale for $1294 shipped.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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BerBer5985

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#9 posted 09-18-2012 04:58 PM

What are the differences between the G6091 and the 1023RLX? They are the same price and look pretty much identical.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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knotscott

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#10 posted 09-18-2012 06:04 PM

The G1023R series has an updated serpentine style belt drive, a dust collection shroud around the blade, and the Shop Fox Classic fence. The G0690 series has a traditional triple v-belt drive system, an Asian made Baldor motor, and a different fence of similar design. AFAIK, the 1023 is made in Taiwan, the G0690 is made in China. Both are getting excellent feedback from owners.

G1023RL guts:

G0690 guts:

The guts of the G0690/691 actually look more like a modified version of the trunnions of the former original G1023S series, which was a copy of the older Unisaw design:

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Bertha

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#11 posted 09-18-2012 07:30 PM

I’m not sure I’ll ever need greater than 30” capacity. I mean, I’d love a monster but I just can’t see my work going in that direction. I’m not a Grizzly guy but that saw is loved around here. I’d probably keep saving and spring for it. Good luck!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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knotscott

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#12 posted 09-18-2012 07:57 PM

Bertha’s comment about rip capacity reminded me that the stock rip capacity of the G1023RL and G0690 are 26” and 30” respectively, but each can be fairly easily modified for 36” rip and 40” respectively. See more info here

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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BerBer5985

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#13 posted 09-18-2012 07:58 PM

I wonder if that serpentine type belt will be a pain in the butt to replace later on? Probably runs very smooth though.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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Bertha

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#14 posted 09-18-2012 08:00 PM

Knot, 40” is definitely a happy medium, that’s for sure.
Unless I can find a pristine vintage one, my next saw with be the 30” PM.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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