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Forum topic by Craftsman on the lake posted 683 days ago 1513 views 0 times favorited 61 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Craftsman on the lake

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683 days ago

This is a totally useless forum topic but I just couldn’t help but post what I’ve noticed.

I’ve been looking at the top three projects for a while now. Please keep in mind that posting for me isn’t an issue, no matter where I get posted as long as it’s there to read. But, i’ve been fascinated by the algorithm that picks the top three. I don’t know what it is and am sure that it involves more than one aspect but I think I’ve gotten one of them.

I began running some numbers of the people that that reply to new project posts. I’ve found a higher number of the projects in the top 3 that have responders that are newer to responding or less for the number of days they’ve been members.

For Example.

You’ll see a lot more things like 34 posts in 245 days

You’ll still see some (but less) that are like 1278 posts in 678 days

A lot more of them are fewer posts for the number of days that they are members.

Upon looking at a project with a lot of replies it’s not really always obvious but if you plot the ratios of replies to days that a people replying has been members, it almost always comes out that the top three have more replies from members that have been on awhile but have fewer total replies. Or more accurately a lower ratio of posts to number of days a member.

Remember that 1000 posts in 2000 days is as good as 100 posts in 200 days.. it’s the same ratio.

So, is the top three somehow a way to bring out projects that have been recognized by members who post very conservatively… meaning: They only reply when they feel something really deserves recognition? Possibly more conservative repliers also encourage projects that are a ‘good try’ or from newer woodworkers too? I don’t know. Just an observation that really isn’t very important.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.


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Dusty56

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#1 posted 683 days ago

Dan , it appears to me that it is just based on the number of views. Some things posted aren’t even projects !
Example : the guy who posted a picture of free wood crates in the finished project forum and got into the Daily Top Three.
WTH ???

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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a1Jim

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#2 posted 683 days ago

I’m not sure what makes top 3, but looking in the past top 3 I’ve thought may be it had to do with how interesting the title is .

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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DIYaholic

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#3 posted 683 days ago

”no matter where I get posted as long as it’s there to read.”

Not me, I feel like an utter failure if I don’t get top honors!!! Lol.

a1Jim,
I have found that the more “interesting” the title is drives the # of views & hence the comments…..

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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Craftsman on the lake

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#4 posted 683 days ago

Dusty, some with few views make it there so it cold be a factor but not by itself.

Jim, An algorithm would have a hard time deciding on which topics were interesting. There would have to be a “interesting topic moderator”. I don’t think they have someone doing that do you?

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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Dusty56

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#5 posted 683 days ago

That’s what I’m saying , Jim . You click on it because either the picture or the title makes you want to “view” it.

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 683 days ago

It’s a mystery.

I did run across something interesting a couple of days ago, though. I went to look up one of my old projects, and found it had a “Daily Top Three” badge, even though it was posted waaaaay before there even was a daily top three. So, obviously, the algorithm was applied to all posted projects retroactively.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Dusty56

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#7 posted 683 days ago

I haven’t noticed ”few views” as much as few comments in the top 3 , Dan.
I’ll have to pay more attention , I guess : )
LOL

Charlie , I noticed the same thing quite a while ago. Thought it was pretty cool to see a couple of mine from long ago up there : )

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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muleskinner

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#8 posted 683 days ago

I’ve come to the conclusion that the Daily Top Three is meaningless. Not to hurt anyone’s feelings, but when this wins a badge and this doesn’t then the Daily Top Three is just a bad joke.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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Dusty56

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#9 posted 683 days ago

Exactly my point….the sled got 1997 views and only 12 comments , where as the elaborate box only received 371 views , BUT, got 16 comments.

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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ChuckV

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#10 posted 683 days ago

Also, notice that the sled has was favorited 15 times and the box was favorited two times. I think that the number of times favorited is an important factor in the algorithm.

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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Blackie_

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#11 posted 683 days ago

I don’t know if this it the correct response to this post but as for as projects, comments and top 3 go, I do my best to show recognition on most projects that peek my interest, I have to admit there’s a lot that don’t, I’m more prone to comment on my buddies list then in general just because of my time line, I just don’t have the time go through and view all projects. People post there projects for a several reasons, it’s a social invitation, they are proud of there creation and sometimes it’s a learning tool and the great feeling your get for the recognition received.

I also believe there’s a fine line when it comes to something placed in the project section when in fact it would better fit as a blog such as things that aren’t actually a project but something you want to share with others.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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muleskinner

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#12 posted 683 days ago

Chuck, I hadn’t noticed the “favorite” stats. That’s also a poor criteria in my mind. I (and I assume a lot of others) ‘favorite’ projects that I might be interested in duplicating or at least using as reference to things I will build. Everybody here can build that sled. I do not see myself attempting to build that box.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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ShaneA

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#13 posted 683 days ago

It is a combo of views, favorites, and comments. No idea what the ratio is, but often times I notice the “best” or most skilled projects dont make it, while some simpler ones do. Who knows?

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ChuckV

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#14 posted 683 days ago

It is almost frightening to see results of the subtle, nearly human-like, discriminatory prowess of the top-3 algorithm:

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/39545

Just kidding poopiekat. This is one of the all-time greats!

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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Blackie_

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#15 posted 683 days ago

Actually Chuck, that link after viewing it, those are the ones I was talking about when it comes to a fine line between blogs and projects, Me personally I would have posted that as a blog but that’s just me, not meaning to step on toes, just an observation.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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