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AJswoodshop

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09-15-2012 11:01 AM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw miter saw

I do most of my crosscuts on my TS with my sled, but miter saw’s make really nice cuts to. RAS are great too, but when you move the bevel on a RAS, it’s hard to get it back to 90 degrees. So out of the three, which one of these tools would you use for making cross cuts? TS, Miter Saw, Or RAS?

AJ


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#1 posted 09-15-2012 11:10 AM

I use my TS for all crosscuts that will fit on the saw, and use the CMS for things like long molding. A good cast iron TS is inherently more robust and more accurate than a CMS. I don’t own a RAS.

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AJswoodshop

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#2 posted 09-15-2012 11:55 AM

That’s what I do too. I use my CMS for molding, and tricky cuts you can’t do with a TS sled.

AJ

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Newage Neanderthal

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#3 posted 09-15-2012 12:01 PM

when I used power tools the only time i used anything other than my table saw to cross cut was….? not sure, I cut eight foot boards on the thing. just needed side outfeed. Now a days, i still use one of three saws to cross cut normally, panel saw, carcass saw, or small cross cut (basically a dovetail saw with cross cut teeth)

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#4 posted 09-15-2012 12:11 PM

I started out with a RAS. My main cutting appliance for many years. Rips, cross cuts, mitering, dadoes -everything. After acquiring a TS, the RAS was relegated to miters and cross cuts. About a month ago a friend gave me a SCMS and the RAS was downgraded a flat surface that collects junk. I’m considering giving it to one of the son-in-laws.

I built a couple sleds for the TS but hardly ever use them. The logistics are much simpler with the CMS.

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#5 posted 09-15-2012 12:53 PM

I use the TS and miter gauge with wooden fence.

I use my miter saw for rough cutting to length.

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#6 posted 09-15-2012 01:27 PM

I prefer the RAS, but mine returns to dead nuts zero if I move it (a Dewalt). My miter saw has been retired to the barn and comes out for home improvement projects.

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bondogaposis

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#7 posted 09-15-2012 02:23 PM

I use a RAS for most of my cross cutting. I leave it set up for 90° cuts and never change it. For miter cuts and other angled crosscuts I use the table saw and miter gauge.

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#8 posted 09-15-2012 02:47 PM

Even with a sled, I find cross-cutting long pieces on the TS to be painful. I kept a GP blade on the TS because I didn’t want to be changing between a rip and crosscut blade all the time. I had a fixed 10” miter saw that I found to be more accurate with long pieces and at weird angles, but the width restriction was limiting. I finally broke down and bought a 12” sliding compound miter saw.

Rips happen on the table saw, cross-cutting up to 12” (hasn’t proven to be limiting yet) happens on the miter saw and the TS almost always has a rip blade on it. I’ll have to finish a couple of projects on it to be sure, but right now it seems more convenient.

I was real close to pulling the trigger on a RAS instead of the sliding miter saw but space limitations dictated the miter saw. In either case I would need longer wings to support long stock, but the RAS just intruded into shop floor space more.

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#9 posted 09-15-2012 03:06 PM

I own a Dewalt 9’’ MMB RAS its all cast iron I do all my crosscuts on it and some angle cuts. I own a 10’’ Unisaw but I use it for ripping mostly. But I have rip on my RAS.

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#10 posted 09-15-2012 04:30 PM

Yep, same as Scott here. The TS and Miter gauge/sled get the majority of those cuts due to accuracy. The CMS gets the longer boards or the rough cut down to size before using the TS. I too don’t own a RAS, but I used my Dad’s Craftsman for a longtime and never really felt comfortable with it. I also thought it always seemed underpowered.

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#11 posted 09-15-2012 06:15 PM

I think a table saw and a really good sled is the most accurate. I use a scms for most of my cross cuts though. It all depends on what your doing and how much acuracy you have to have.

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HorizontalMike

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#12 posted 09-15-2012 07:16 PM

Grandpa = +10

My SuperSled has made a very BIG difference in my WW-ing. And like Jay, I pretty much restrict my MS for rough cutting long boards down to TS sized pieces.

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#13 posted 09-15-2012 07:22 PM

I use my units aw for rips and my ras for crosscut including miters. Using a wisely digital angle gauge insures a return to 90 as well as the angle for any bevel.

-- "Measure twice, cut once, count fingers"

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#14 posted 09-16-2012 08:02 AM

We use miter saw up to 12”. Over that and we use ts. We do have 2 dreamt RAS, both are great and have a reach of 17”. One RAS Haas permanent dado and does great. Other has cross cut blade and is used as back up. RAS does poor on quality of cut on back side of cut whereas miter saw and ts has great quality cut using good quality blades.

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#15 posted 09-16-2012 08:45 AM

I use an adjustable fence on my RAS

I never take it off the 90 of the fence

I also prefer it for compound angles.

Jamie

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