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Forum topic by ChrisCarr posted 09-14-2012 01:23 PM 4847 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ChrisCarr

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09-14-2012 01:23 PM

Just wanted to know some good rip saw brands? I have heard disston is good but i want to buy new.

Does this one look worth a shot to try…

http://www.amazon.com/Putsch-24-Rip-Saw-TPI/dp/B0032UDHOG


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dustinmyeye

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#1 posted 09-14-2012 01:54 PM

I have a Wenzloff rip saw that works great. I’ve used it for ripping but also to resaw. Probably a lot more than the Putsch but one of those tools you hope to pass on someday.

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#2 posted 09-14-2012 02:59 PM

I personally was not that impressed with the fit and finish of the Putsch saws. For a little more money you can step up to a Pax saw (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=46886&cat=1,42884,63338&ap=1) which are tapered and breasted. For quite a bit more money you can step up the super premium brands (Lie Nielsen, Wenzloff, etc.). I enjoy using both my Pax and Wenzloff saws, it just depends on how much cash you want to part with. :) Good luck!

-- John, BC, Canada

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Dallas

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#3 posted 09-14-2012 03:34 PM

If I may be so bold I would like to ask why you would rather buy new than a vintage Disston saw that would probably only need to be cleaned, sharpened and set?

A new saw will still need to be cleaned sharpened and set occasionally.

This question is in no way indicative of my thoughts on buying new vs: used or your choice of buying new vs: used.

I haven’t tried the Putsch saws, but I had used the Pax and my 90 year old Disston still seems to do a better job. It’s possible that it just feels better and balances to my hand better.

Before you buy any new saw I would advise you to try one, not just take someones word for it, (including mine), as it’s all subjective. Different saws balance differently for different people.

Good Luck!

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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bandit571

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#4 posted 09-14-2012 05:43 PM

Maybe even an Atkins rip saw?

Maybe a 5.5ppi thumbhole D-8 by Disston?

Of course, they can’t all be Monster Saws like…

or maybe this big guy…

28” long, over 7” wide by the handle. Just a “run-of-the-mill” Warranted Superior Brand. Just clean it up, sharpen it up. MOST of the old vintage saws won’t need to be re-set. Price for these? I USUALLy paid an average of…......$2.00 each.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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David Kirtley

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#5 posted 09-15-2012 01:51 AM

The main thing is that it needs to be comfortable. This is more important in a rip saw. This is one case where new is not as good as old. The newer handles are not comfortable and prone to creating blisters. New can be modified but for the most part, ergonomics of the newer ones fail. Some of the vintage rip saws have an additional thumb hole for overhand sawing. This is a great addition for a lot of ripping to give you multiple holds so you can switch it up a bit.
(random pics from google images)

There are also other options. My weapon of choice is a frame saw. (Well, unless I just take it over to the bandsaw ;) ) Some people really get into the Japanese style saws.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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mandatory66

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#6 posted 09-15-2012 04:32 AM

I picked up an old Canadian Disston 5 ppi rip on the bay. It was in very good shape with the hole in the handle to help changing your grip on a long rip. I sharpened it my self ( sharpening a rip is much easier than a xcut ) and it
cuts amazingly fast. I made a saw vise to sharpen it out of some scrape wood.I think I paid $42.00 for it. If you can find a decent old Disston that is the way to go.

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nwbusa

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#7 posted 09-15-2012 04:37 AM

Vintage Disstons are great, but the OP stated that he/she wants to buy new.

-- John, BC, Canada

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ChrisCarr

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#8 posted 09-15-2012 05:10 AM

I wouldn’t mind buying used as long as i dont have to set or joint the teeth, sharpening is all i would want to do. I didn’t think i could find them in that good shape?

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David Kirtley

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#9 posted 09-15-2012 06:26 AM

There are lots of easy choices for crosscut saws. Rip saws have much fewer choices. I understand you are just getting started in this but jointing and setting teeth is something that you will do anyway if you are going to maintain your own saws. It’s not difficult. But I also understand people that would rather just spend their time woodworking rather than sharpening. That is part of the reason I use frame saws. It gets dull, I just pop in a new blade. I have a bundle of them.

It just depends on where you want to spend your time. If you buy new, you will spend a while getting the handle into a usable state. If you buy used, you will spend time sharpening. If you are not going to do all the maintenance yourself, you might as well get something like the Putsch. It will be cheaper to replace than do send out to get a work over.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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#10 posted 09-15-2012 06:08 PM

I have a Thomas Finn PAX rip saw that is so sweet!

http://thebestthings.com/newtools/graphics/pax_panel_saw.jpg

-- Joe

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bandit571

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#11 posted 09-16-2012 12:23 AM

All of the old, rusty, Vintage saws I have bought, and restored, they did not need to be re-set. They still had plenty of set to them. Handles? Haven’t been a problem for a woodworker to fix. If nothing else, one can find handles on the feebay.

Missing bolts? Again, not a real problem, either. Some old saws are only good as parts saws. And, they are about maybe a $1 each.

Saw vise. You could go out an win one one the ebay, or, just clamp two straight pieces of wood and make your own. Yep, there are some good rip saws out there, even go to a barn sale, or a flea market. Check the blade for bends and kinks. All the hardware there? Price? $2-5 is about what I pay for saws. As for them bent saws, IF the rest of the saw is good, you will have a nice source of hardware on hand to fix up the straight saws. Pay maybe a dollar for those bent up ones, but no higher. Locate a few GOOD saw files, that match the tooth count of the saw. Maybe you just might wind up with a decent “line-up” of saws..

Let us know what you find out there…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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MrRon

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#12 posted 09-18-2012 09:44 PM

No rip saw can cut as cleanly and straight like a traditional Japanese pull saw IMHO. I use them to rip plywood panels. I’ve used push type saws, but the pull saw works better for me.

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#13 posted 09-18-2012 10:05 PM

There ARE good tools being made today – they just cost more. I have a limited amount of free time, so even though I would like to learn to refurbish old tools or make my own jigs, that is not how I choose to spend my scarce workshop time right now.

So I am willing to invest a bit more for high quality tools that are not going to take a lot of time and education to get ready for use.

So, I recently purchased my first Bad Axe Tool Works – and I can promise you it will not be my last. Since it is made to measure, it was a joy to use right out of the box. The downside is a wait of months for your personalize saw to be built, but I have never cut with a saw that felt so much an extension of my arm.

It is all a trade-off. We each decide how we are going to spend our time and money. Right now I have more money than time (not a lot of money but almost no time!).

A compromise might be a great refurbished saw from someone who knows what they are doing – I think there are even a couple of LJs who resell saws they have rescued and rebuilt.

-- Kay - Just a girl who loves wood.

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#14 posted 09-18-2012 10:15 PM

I have a Lie-Nielsen crosscut panel saw, and I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a rip, given the chance, just don’t want to spend the money on a new one right now…

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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ChrisCarr

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#15 posted 09-19-2012 02:30 PM

I’ve gotta pick my battles, I’m buying every other hand tool im getting used so far, I think i’ll go with something like the Pax rip saw so its one less thing i gotta work on before digging in.

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