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676 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question tool storage tool box tool cabinet

I’ve decided it’s time to retire my four Beach roll-away tool chests. Though it was a great idea five years ago, I’m just tired of the less-than-perfect drawer glides. Whether ball-bearing or slide-glide, my biceps and shoulders do not need the exercise of muscling these drawers open and closed. Yes, I’ve cleaned them, lubed them, but they are only happy when there’s only 5-6 pounds in them. No way! My files and rasps alone, in one drawer is about 40 lbs. The whole idea of having roll-aways was to compress and maximize space. It doesn’t work that way. So… what does work? I’ve tried cabinets with kitchen drawer glides, good Knape-Voit ones, but they also protest if the least bit overloaded. I’ve pondered the idea of simply making a “box on the shelf” concept, and ignoring drawer glides altogether. Maybe even smaller drawers, but I’d get overwhelmed with a zillion drawer fronts; I’d never find anything.
What have YOU done to facilitate hand-tool storage? What method works for you? Keep in mind, I’m a tool junkie, with lots of stuff to store; as I said I have 4 roll-aways chock full of WW hand tools, and another pickup truck load worth of things that never got a proper home in the poopiekat workshop.
All great ideas will be appreciated! ** Photobucket

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#1 posted 676 days ago

Y’know, I think I was happier years ago with a steel shelving unit, with those plastic warehouse bins. The bins I had were 4” X 3” X 15” long. I had about 60 of them, and it was quite handy to kinda know which bin had what. Then I got fussy with the possibility of one tool edge abrading another, and tanked them. I found some nice steel office/lab cabinets for which I made trays that kept tools separated from each other. It too, however, protested the weight on the glides. Hey, I’ll try anything…except minimalism!!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#2 posted 676 days ago

OK, now what are you going to do?

Go back to the 4” x 3” x 15” bins? That seems like a very small bin to me… Don’t you think they should be a little bigger… at least to hold your largest plane? LOL

Kinda sounds like what goes around, comes around…

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#3 posted 676 days ago

Thanks, Joe! Yeah, the bins definitely had their advantages! I even like my roll-aways, but it seems I cannot come up with a happy medium! I’ve resisted the idea of a wall-hung unit; the 2X4’s in the wall would collapse if I put all my pet tools in it! I cannot reduce my herd to a mere one or two of each tool, I’d never be able to choose one over another. But….I’ve got a pipe threading kit from about 1928, I’ve used it once in the past 10 years, to thread the other end of my 3/4” pipe clamps… in case I need to extend a clamp to 14 feet… yeah, okay….4 glue guns I never use, three Dremels (gifts over the years)...soldering irons…nail guns that haven’t had air put to them in 10-15 years.. X-acto kits, unused, ....all stuff I’ll need the day after I get rid of it!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#4 posted 676 days ago

I think I have (insert disorder here) too!

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#5 posted 676 days ago

uhh, Joewilliams:.. I already came clean on my collecting disorder, perhaps before you joined. Some witty person described it simply: We are curators of our material empires. I felt better after I read that. I’m well!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#6 posted 676 days ago

Ah yes… I’ve heard of that syndrone before… In fact, I think I created it…!

It seems like EVERYTHING I get rid of, because I’ve had it for years without using it but think “I know this really good for something & is too good to just throw away” but throw it away anyway, will ALWAYS be wanted / needed not long after throwing it away!

I guess it’s “Catching”... sorry you caught it too… LOL

So, you want to make a list of everything you have “Titled FREE as long as you pay the freight”... it will make you very HAPPY making other people HAPPY with your unused treasures? LOL

I’m sure you probably the same Plane 5-6 times over… and you know you can only use one at a time… What a waste… Right? Perfect items for The List! LOL

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#7 posted 676 days ago

AKA “Pack Rats”! LOL

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#8 posted 676 days ago

Well Poopie, to start with there is no way any one person needs that many planes. I could certainly help relieve you of a few. I need a #3, #4, #7 and a #8 because I got laid off and had to take a crap job before I could fill in my kit. See, that would relieve you of about 20 to 25 lbs of clutter. Doesn’t that feel better.

Seriously, the plastic bin idea is where I’m headed, but with one variation. I have been toying around with making my own bins from 1/2” and 1/4” MDF. I started out making some magazine holders because I thought it was obscene that they charge $5 for these in stores. Then I thought I would make some shorter wider boxes for some hardware. Now, I am starting to make some for files and rasps and every day I think of more things that fit.

I do buy the $1.00 plastic shoebox size tubs with lids for light weight bulky things like sanding disks and belts and foam brushes etc.

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#9 posted 676 days ago

poopiekat hasn´t your toolcabinet the havy duty sliders or just light cabinets sliders
there is a major differents bethween them on how long they can be beaten
I have a simular toolbox like yours though with one more box on top
and I have it packed with 1150-1200 tools (bought with 1000) bought it 12 years ago
back when I had my garage to repair the Taxi´s in
and I have no problems at all with the sliders yet :-)

I don´t know if I can benefit from the same idea thats behind rolling toolcabinets
in a woodworking shop the idea to have all the tools rolled to the place you want to work
but it was great to have when repairing car …. and not have to walk back and forward all day long
to get a new tool in the hand and at the same time have a table to place tool in use
and the repairparts on
I still consider how my woodworking tools is going to be stored in the shop for easy acces and protection

Dennis

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#10 posted 676 days ago

I bought a steel locker on Craigslist a couple of years ago and it is fantastic for storing all those hard to store items. This storage locker has 18 sections that are 12”x12” x24” deep and each section has its own hinged door with provisions to put a padlock on each…however it is not ncessary to lock anything in my shop… I have organized the compartments and used a label maker to make identification labels for each door.
The absolute best $75 I have ever spent and it is very solid and strong.

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#11 posted 676 days ago

think maple
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#12 posted 676 days ago

I use old file cabinets. Not much heavier thing than paper. I bought mine years ago govt. surplus. A little spray lube once in a great while is all the maintenance needed and you could store your pick up in it except it won’t fit. They lock also. You need the old green ones, the newer cheapies don’t have the same guides.
Jim

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#13 posted 676 days ago

Sorry, I am still looking at all those planes…...lmao!

Great stuff!

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#14 posted 676 days ago

Thanks for all the great replies, guys!
Crank 49: Making custom-sized MDF trays is a great idea! I’m leaning in that direction myself! Dennis Grosen: I’m wondering if there is a way to upgrade the slides on my present units… but probably not. I’m of the opinion now that roll-away chests are cheap crap, even my Proto cabinet was collapsed on the bottom, I had to reinforce with plywood so that the casters would track properly. My shop is small enough that wherever I am I’m just steps away from the toolboxes anyway. I wheel them around only to clean the floor. GregtheboxSculptor: Yes, I can visualize a steel unit like yours, that is a great example of re-purposing! I’ve seen them, but I don’t recall any that are 24” deep, that would be the ideal size, I could use one like that for shorts and cutoffs, they need sorting too! DonW: You gotta share that maple runner design! I’ve just about given up on cheezy stamped steel runners, and I recall an old oak office file cabinet with a 3-part hardwood runners, long ago and I don’t recall the detail clearly enough. how much weight do yours support? OldElm: Thumbs up on the old green file cabinets! jjw: Yeah, but although they might look organized, my rehabs and users are always getting co-mingled with ones as-found in the rough and I sometimes will pick one at random, de-rust and clean, and put an edge on it. Then, I forget if I liked it or not! Thanks again for all the great replies!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#15 posted 675 days ago

they shuold be easy enoff to change if yours is made like mine
when you pull out the drawers there is a little tap you can push on /down / back or forward
on each drawer slide so they releach one part of the lide from the other
and then its only to screw the slides of both the cabinet and the drawer itself

and yes there is a different in quality between a 200 $ and a 3000 $ cabinet beside the brandname ..lol
last time I visit Bauhaus I saw some of the cheap units and took a closer look at them
they are good enoff if you only have few tools and does make small diy work at your own house
or repeair bycicles

I know you have a few toolbrands that make there own set of cabinets and from the price of them
they most be highend quality too

Dennis

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