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Forum topic by mggraphix posted 09-09-2012 09:00 PM 726 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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mggraphix

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09-09-2012 09:00 PM

Hello everyone,
I have been lurking in the background for some time. I generally can find an answer to any of my questions by doing a little reading through the forums. Thanks to everyone in this forum for all the help they have given me. However, I now need some assistance trying to locate some Western Red Cedar. (VG, clear of heart)

I have been a heavy equipment mechanic for most of my days, after having a couple back surgeries ten or so years ago I started a sign and screen printing company, realizing my back was not going to withstand the abuse I had been throwing at it. I enjoy the signs and screen printing quite a bit. The business has grown to pretty much a full time position.

I purchased a 5’ x 10’ cnc router a few years ago and the woodworking projects started coming. I have always enjoyed working with wood and have constructed many things over the years. However I am still a novice compared to the Lumberjocks community.

Now that I have bored everyone I will get to it…
I have 4 signs that I need to manufacture for a local project. The signs have to be Clear heart, vertical grain, Western Red Cedar. MC 12% or less. These signs after glue up will be 114” wide by about 108” high, 1.5” thick, grain running horizontally. No splicing. I am located in the northeast USA (New York) I had a supplier in California set up to furnish me with the panels, I would do all the machining then the final glue up of the panels to make the finished product of one large panel. (My cnc is not large enough to machine the final project after glue up.)
The sample they sent me (which I used for my submittal and my quote on the job.) was constructed of 1.75” x 1.5” laminated sections. Upon delivery of the panels I noticed small knots in some of the panels. (About .5”) I had to send them back. The company said I have to expect a couple here and there. I don’t really understand that because they glued up 95% knot free on all the panels and did a nice job. Why they laminated 2 boards with knots out of 20 in one panel is beyond me. I purchased about 10 different panels, so they had enough material to make 9 of them knot free. I just don’t get it. So now I am in the market for a supplier to get the lumber and manufacture all the panels myself but nobody in my area carries such a thing. Sorry so long winded here… If anyone, east, west, north, south can recommend someplace I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Gene


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Monte Pittman

15150 posts in 1062 days


#1 posted 09-09-2012 10:16 PM

I can probably cut the cedar slabs for you. I am not really set up to do much more than that.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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crashn

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#2 posted 09-10-2012 12:33 AM

I cant find any red cedar here in DC, knot free or not.

-- Crashn - the only thing I make more of than sawdust is mistakes

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PittsburghTim

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#3 posted 09-10-2012 12:46 AM

I have used Keim Lumber in Charm Ohio for years. I recently had them make long, glued-up countertops for all of the cabinets in my garage. They are not cheap, but they can custom make just about anything. In addition to a huge variety of suppliers, they manufacture their own line of doors (I would love to use their quarter-sawn white oak doors in a new home some day) and custom mill any type of woodwork.

They have their own machine shop that will cut planer knives to match any moulding you need. It may be worth a try. I have been able to e-mail them drawings and specs and get a quote back.

Good Luck

-- She asked me, "Who are you going to please with that?" I said, "Me."

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mggraphix

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#4 posted 09-12-2012 02:16 PM

Thanks for the info. Monte- if it comes to going that route, I will contact you. Thanks for your offer. Tim- I put a call in over at Keim. Crossing my finger…
Thanks again everyone.

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twobyfour16

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#5 posted 10-24-2013 09:47 PM

Gene – I know you were working on this over a year ago, but for future reference, send me a message on these types of requests. I sell lumber for a living (wholesale primarily), and I can probably help with VG cedar. If nothing else, I could steer you the right direction. Also, anyone selling Western Red Cedar VG that has knots, is crazy. What’s the point of beautiful Vertical grain material if you have an obvious defect? Your biggest challenge, as always, is going to be freight. Most of the good VG Cedar comes out of coastal British Columbia, and/or here in the Pacific Northwest, and shipping it in small volumes gets VERY expensive. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth & I hope your sign making business is flourishing.
-Allan

-- Allan, Portland, OR

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