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oldnovice

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09-08-2012 07:10 AM

Topic tags/keywords: tools dust collection shop space

I am looking for a small dust collection system in the less than $300 price range. What I mean by small is cubic feet of shop space.

I have looked on CL and found nothing worthwhile and I suppose I could spend hours looking at products on the web but I though it would be easier to ask those that may have the answer I need!

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#1 posted 09-08-2012 07:19 AM

Do you want to run ducting to multiple machines or move the
collector from machine to machine?

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#2 posted 09-08-2012 07:42 AM

I haven’t really though about that part of it! I guess I would like to have it stationary with some fixed ducting and moveable ducting … sort of like a vacuum cleaner on steroids.

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#3 posted 09-08-2012 02:09 PM

You can look at this one. I have seen comments by a number of people indicating that it it is a good machine for the money. They say it occupies about 32 cubic feet excluding tubing. I know nothing about this machine other than what I have read. HTH

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#4 posted 09-08-2012 02:15 PM

This one looks good.App $200 shipped, but you can easily spend another $50-100 on hoses and accessosories. 3/4 hp. I have a 3/4 hp Delta and its perfectly adequate for hooking up to a single machine. Probably not enough power to run a whole-shop system. It comes with a 30 micron bag, but a 5 micron bag is available. Hangs on the wall with a french cleat, making it easy to move from one wall to another with no fuss.
Heck- I might keep my eye on this one myself. I have a small shop and this would be great.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30676&site=ROCKLER

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#5 posted 09-08-2012 02:27 PM

Get the Harbor Freight DC. $149.00 coupon in the WWing mags. Those things have been more modified than a ‘32 roadster.
Bill

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#6 posted 09-08-2012 04:10 PM

Where my money would go.

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HorizontalMike

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#7 posted 09-08-2012 04:26 PM

@oldnovice,
Here is an image of my shop layout. Notice that my HF-DC (with DIY Thein separator) is stationary against the wall and I can reach, in clockwise fashion, my jointer, TS, and BS all with a single 10ft section of flex hose. I use a 20ft section to reach my lunchbox planer which is roughly where I took this picture:

My mitersaw is connected to a 5gal DC with separator:

My set up is NOT the most convenient, but I do believe that it is one of the most cost effective on a budget. I will eventually upgrade the DC bag to a large filter from Wynn Environmental, but that will cost as much as the HF DC by itself. All in good time. And this way, you can do these upgrades in stages.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#8 posted 09-08-2012 04:54 PM

I guess it depends what you mean by small and what your going to use it for. I have three HF DC’s and have found them to do a great job(I like mine mounted outside). I also use other means for dust collection like a large shop vac for my router table and a Fein auto start shop vac for my Random orbital sander.http://www.amazon.com/Fein-9-77-25-15-Gallon-1-5-Horsepower-Auto-Start/dp/B00005Q7C0/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1347123084&sr=8-8&keywords=auto+start+shop+vac

Great looking shop mike

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#9 posted 09-08-2012 05:19 PM

I’ve used dedicated shop vacs acquired at yard sales
and hooked up to machines.

Aside from the jointer and planer, a vacuum with
a short run of 2.5” hose works well for all
hobby-type machines.

One thing to consider is noise level. The table saw
is noisy anyway so the vacuum is no big deal, but
a jointer is quiet.

I had a 12” jointer/planer combo for several years
and left a dust collector hooked up to it with a separator
trash can in between. A shop vac routed through
the trash can worked almost as well, but if you hook
up a vac directly to a planer the 2.5” hose may clog
with chips and the vacuum will certainly fill up
quickly.

If you get a blower-type collector and can vent it
outside or put it outside, that’s a good way to
do it.

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HorizontalMike

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#10 posted 09-09-2012 03:22 PM

@oldnovice,
As you see, the HF DC unit is quite popular and inexpensive. After all discounts, you will still have more than enough left over from that $300 to build/acquire a DIY Thein Separator including the 30gal can, 20-30ft of hose(whatever length you need), all the needed 4” fittings and clamps, and maybe still have enough left over for about 1/3rd to half the cost of a Wynn Environmental Filter. And you don’t need to do all the upgrades at once, though I did find the Thein Separator SO MUCH better that that maybe should be and early upgrade.

I have one of these Grizzly separators as well, and it does very nearly as well. It just doesn’t do as well when your can is near-the-top full, but that is minor. Just $35:

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#11 posted 09-09-2012 04:22 PM

I have this DC back when bought it came with 30 micron bags about ten years ago. I had to replace on-off switch, shipping cost more than part.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html

Knowing 30 micron bags not suitable bought a Wynn 35A cartridge kit and replaced those bags. Bought the washable most expensive version because live in high humidity area. Other folks happy with less expensive model. See now they have a more expensive model specs look even better.

http://www.wynnenv.com/35A_series_cartridge_kit.htm

Down side is plastic bag a P.I.T.A to install but best bags on the market. Can run Hefty 32 gallon garbage bags with this DC too!

Cost of the DC, Canister and bags have all gone up since purchased my system. I use a combination of flex DC hose and PVC pipe and fittings at my bandsaw and lathe.

Wynn provides a link to Bill Pentz web-site which is a nice read to help you figure out your needs. At time bought my set up was biggest bang for the bucks. Check all the specs before buying not sure what is available today.

-- Bill

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#12 posted 09-09-2012 05:23 PM

Thank guys, a HF store opened about 4 miles from my house so I will take a trip there … after the “da Bears” are done on TV!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#13 posted 09-09-2012 05:50 PM

”da Bears” ?

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