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Kevin

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691 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: router router table table saw extension

That is the question really. Should I get a router table extension for my grizzly 1023SL and if so what would you get? Should I just build my own version of something like Norms? I don’t have a lot of room in my shop anymore though, but plan to add onto a 14×24 this spring hopefully.

Thanks

-- Williamsburg, KY


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Cosmicsniper

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#1 posted 691 days ago

Kevin,

I use a Bench Dog wing on my Unisaw with a big Milwaukee router, PRLv2 lift, and a Rockler enclosure. It is a terrific setup. It saves room, expands my working surface on the table saw, and can utilize the TS fence….and that’s a big advantage when your fence is an Incra TSLS, like mine is.

I’m not sure I’d ever want a self-standing router table.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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JesseTutt

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#2 posted 691 days ago

One of my router tables also serves as an outfeed table for the table saw. With the fence removed and the bit lowered the table top is the same height as the table saw. Add drawers for storage and you get 3 functions (router table, outfeed table, and storage) in one unit.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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Kevin

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#3 posted 691 days ago

Getting the extension I could use my router more often than what I do for sure. I still like the idea of building my own router table though, lol.

I wouldn’t be surprised when it’s all said and done that I don’t have the extension in the table saw plus a router table and have my two most used router bits in them :)

I’ve already got the outfeed table though on the TS that folds down with folding legs I built a while back. That works out good.

Choices choices :)

thanks guys

-- Williamsburg, KY

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#4 posted 691 days ago

Well dang, looks like my dim is 18×27 and the bench dog is 16×27 :( It may be the h7507 from girzzly or build my own extension table with a routed plate opening.

-- Williamsburg, KY

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NiteWalker

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#5 posted 691 days ago

Build your own; or at least the top and fence and get the steel leg set on sale at rockler with a free caster set. I have a stand alone table and my shop is 12×20.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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knotscott

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#6 posted 690 days ago

A router table in a TS wing is a great space saver, though not as flexible or convenient as a stand alone. If you’ve got the space, a stand alone has the advantage, but if not, I find the TS RT to be a very manageable compromise.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Farrout

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#7 posted 690 days ago

I added a table to the wings on my Jet table saw. It turned out well.
The only problem I have is that I have to be careful to not overload the router table part or the whole rig will tip over. Not good to have to have to stop it from tipping when either the saw or the router is running.

Dennis

-- If we learn from our mistakes, I should be a genius!

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Kevin

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#8 posted 690 days ago

Well after going back outside to the shop it looks like for now I’ll probably have to use an extension wing. Here is what i’ve got in my shop right now.

8” griz jointer
1023sl griz TS
band saw
13” planer
makita 10 SCMS
Delta 10” CMS
Drill Press
DC 50-760 with ductwork
small work table

That’s the major stuff in there and it’s pretty efficient right now. I’ll see if I have my visio drawing and upload it to show the floor plan.

-- Williamsburg, KY

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Kevin

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#9 posted 690 days ago

here is a pretty recent layout. I’ve got a drill press on a mobile card that isn’t shown though.

-- Williamsburg, KY

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Cosmicsniper

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#10 posted 690 days ago

Yeah, there are virtues to having a stand-alone. With mine, I do have to make the conversions between TS and router modes. But that takes perhaps two minutes for me. You also have the virtue of a lot of built-in storage with the stand-alone, but I don’t necessarily see that as a big deal.

I do think that, regardless, having a BOTH is a good idea eventually, especially in a production situation where you dedicate each to specific tasks. But if given the choice between only one setup, I would take the TS/router setup.

BTW, that is only true if your TS is a cabinet saw, or perhaps a heavy, stable contractor saw.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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moke

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#11 posted 690 days ago

Kevin,
It looks like you are starting to get congested in your shop….join the club!! I personally think any stand alone tool is better than any combo. Combo set ups are inevitablly going to get in your way or take extra time to set up—tear down etc. I would think an extension would be ok of you had a 52” TS, but short of that it has to be a comprimise….now having said that, comprimise is necessary occasionally. If you feel you can work a table into the mix, go for it!!!

I have two different router tables. I like to make raised panel doors and two tables are nice for that. I made them both, while buying both tops and fences. One table is the typical setup with collection, drawers and a large drawer on the bottom. It is on wheels and is my “go to” router. It has a 3.5 hp router and a Jessem lift…the second, is a Bosch 2 hp, has no lift and is on a portable table set-up that, when being used is on a
“shopmate” type bench. When not being used it is kind of packed away. The bosch has two bases, so it is easliy detached for some free hand work.
Just my .02

My point is that you could certainly start with a “portable” first, while planning and building the “dream” table. You could get a lift for the portable and transfer it later to the nicer table. Make no mistake, making a dream-tricked out table is NOT a cheap endeavor. Put some thought to it, so the overall plan for one or two routers can be versitile. Then just execute your plan on your own schedule.

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Kevin

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#12 posted 690 days ago

Hi guys,

From the suggestions it was pretty much on par with what I was originally thinking, but wanted some opinions in case I was just thinking wrong.

I am getting congested right now in the shop, very true. I have the bosch 1617evspk right now, well for a few years that is. I’ve also got the bosch colt for smaller hand routing too which I turn to quite a bit.

The grizzly 1023SL is a cabinet saw, but it’s not a 52” though. I will be building some bookshelves and making drawers for desk soon and using dado’s for the shelves and bottom of drawers. My portable skil router table is just too time consuming to change bits and get setup. If I opted for the extension wing, http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-H7507-Router-Extension-Table/dp/B0007D30NY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347031518&sr=8-1&keywords=grizzly+h7507 it would give me extra surface space on the TS while not really getting in the way.

I want to probably wait and build my router table and trick it out so that will be my nice one :)

The TS version would just be to do simple roundovers, grooves, etc like that.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

-- Williamsburg, KY

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Cosmicsniper

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#13 posted 690 days ago

Great plan, Kevin. Keep in mind, I’ve seen people drop their routers into their workbenches.

As long as it’s stable, it’s flat, and it provides the function you need, then it’s totally cool.

BTW, my extension wing is on the left side of the TS…which gives me more space without taking up a whole ton of shop room. Right side tables simply fills the space between the fence…and I don’t think you need a 52” fence to take advantage of that.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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Kevin

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#14 posted 690 days ago

Jay,
Yeah I’ve thought about that in the past, wouldn’t be hard to do really. Yeah, you’re right, it just fills the space really. I’ve got it added in my cart right now at amazon. I might as well move my rail over 10” to the right to give me about a 36” rip capacity while I change out the wings.

-- Williamsburg, KY

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#15 posted 690 days ago

Thanks guys for all the suggestions!

-- Williamsburg, KY

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