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hg1027

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09-06-2012 06:43 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw question

Hey guys

I’ve been looking for a table saw, and I’ve read a few dozen “which new saw should I buy” threads.

I’m not really impressed with what I can get for my budget (under $500) new, sounds like the ridgid/craftsman/porter cable clones all have a couple issues, others are missing the cast iron table I want, or have other fatal flaws. The budget is pretty firm, I’ve already gotten some grief for not being happy with a $150 saw.

I’m leaning toward an older model for the simplicity and reliability. I’ve seen a couple threads where people have asked for help combing through Craigslist ads, so I’d appreciate that help. I’d prefer to stay with Houston TX postings, but if a killer deal came up I would go to Austin or San Antonio.

Two I’ve inquired about are here and here. First only has text, says “old delta table saw heavy duty belt drive,” $200, second is what I believe most would consider a classic craftsman with a vega fence, $400. I’m waiting for a pic and hopefully a model number of the delta, and I’ve expressed interest in the Craftsman and confirmed it’s 110v (i know some 3hp saws are 220, and I don’t expect 110 to actually give 3hp, but that’s another discussion). I assume most of the asking price on the Craftsman is for the fence. The usability added by the fence makes it attractive, but I’m not sure if $400 is reasonable.

So, my questions for the community. Do either of these spark enough interest to warrant a visit? Both are about an hours drive in opposite directions.

I’ll add info on the Delta if the seller comes back.

Thanks for reading.


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alexdom_89

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#1 posted 09-06-2012 06:49 PM

Here in south tx there is a cman with a bessy fence 52” rails wish I had money to spair I’d have it already!!

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CyberDyneSystems

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#2 posted 09-06-2012 07:39 PM

Don’t rule out Ebay either,. Local pickup only usually for such a heavy Item, and Ebay will sort results by your location.

I’ve seen a number of Unisaws sell for under $500.00 in the last 12 months,. including the one I got for $350.00

that $200.00 delta might be a contractor saw, but I usually don’t go past the lack of photo.

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#3 posted 09-06-2012 07:51 PM

You should get something decent for 500 bucks or maybe a tad more.Have fun brother. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#4 posted 09-06-2012 10:14 PM

I would wait, not sure either is a great deal. The Delta seems the most interesting for the 200 price tag, but the lack of a photo seems suspicious and without the photo it is difficult to assess before spending gas money to go and see.

Here in San Antonio there are deals on table saws weekly, great deals monthly. I just got a 3 hp Grizzly with stock fence for 300. I missed on a 200 Unisaw last month. Likely within the next week or so there will be a very good deal on something.

I just sold a nice, newer model TS3650 for 250.00.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#5 posted 09-06-2012 10:53 PM

here’s a ridgid I just saw on CL in your price range, it’s in Sugarland:

http://houston.craigslist.org/tls/3194846109.html

-- Joe - - - something witty should go here - - -

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hg1027

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#6 posted 09-07-2012 12:48 AM

Looks like the ridgid 2412 could/does have the same problem as the 4512 and several others with the alignment. Probly a no go.

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Dallas

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#7 posted 09-07-2012 01:32 AM

My boss has a beautiful old 113. Craftsman with a nice fence and original miter gauge for $150. Someone needs to buy it or I might have to.
I really like my Ryobi BT3100 but the draw of an induction motor and a much better fence is almost irresistible!

We are about 150 miles from you and you would really like this thing.

I can guarantee that is was only used for a short time to build a bar for a tavern my boss opened. He only used a combination blade on it and it’s probably original to the saw. I haven’t looked that close.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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toolie

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#8 posted 09-07-2012 02:29 AM

hg1027…....that statement about the 2412 is absolutely erroneous. if you can get a clean 2412, 2424 or 3612, go for it. they are terribly good saws and, with a minimum of maintenance, will last a lifetime.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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hg1027

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#9 posted 09-07-2012 12:51 PM

Toolie – thanks for clearing that up.

So the current question, if I want to pick up a saw this weekend, is, will I be $125 happier with the craftsman and the Vega fence than I would be with the stock Ridgid? The saw models are almost identical, if I understand correctly (the craftsman is a 113, both would have been built by Emerson, both belt drive, etc..).

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Beginningwoodworker

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#10 posted 09-07-2012 12:58 PM

I would just hold, you can find a use Unisaw from the 40’s or 50’s with a 1hp for $500 bucks sometimes or Delta contrators saw if you hold out.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#11 posted 09-07-2012 01:25 PM

I just walked through our local tool supplier’s shop a couple days ago, he had a sign out reading DELTA UNISAWS $200.00, GENERAL $300.00. c/w fences, rails, etc.

All I could see was three Unisaws, found out they had replaced 21 saws for a school in a neighbouring city, and bought the old ones to help out their clients.

I would have bought a General 350 but they had sold them all.

There are deals out there, I would agree with the posts above, if you can wait around a bit (not one of my strong points) you will find what you want!

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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hg1027

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#12 posted 09-10-2012 07:11 PM

Well, a great deal came along over the weekend, Craftsman 113.29903 for the low low price of Free. It hasn’t been used in a couple years, and was put up dirty, so I’ve spent about 3 hours cleaning and oiling the motor, vacuuming all the old saw dust out, greasing the adjustment screws, and putting a grounded plug on. I have a new link belt and I’ve ordered a Freud blade (the one on there doesn’t look too terrible, at least it has carbide teeth). I picked up a sheet of 3/4” ply and some casters to build a cart.

Next step is to grease the rest of the trunion and see how it cuts.

Thanks for the advice, I’ll be on the lookout for the $100 unisaw!

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toolie

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#13 posted 09-11-2012 02:43 AM

congrats on the acquisition. don’t grease the the trunions or bevel/lift mechanisms as that attracts saw dust and causes them to gum up with saw dust more quickly. either dry lube or beeswax. and look into replacing the OEM pulleys with machined pulleys. together with the link belt, the saw’s vibration should be reduced to next to nothing, like my saw (note the nickel to the right of the fence):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvTS7pfhfsU&feature=plcp

( i know, releasing the workpiece was not my smartest move, but it shows how dead on accurate the fence is relative to the blade.)

and this is the best aftermarket fence for that saw of yours:

http://www.tools-plus.com/delta-36-t30.html

absolutely the best bang for the buck. i have one, as the video shows, and it is a great value @ $158 that improves the performance of the saw.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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