patterns ?? good-bad-indifferent ??

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Forum topic by ronbuhg posted 09-03-2012 05:33 AM 1063 views 0 times favorited 2 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-03-2012 05:33 AM

Topic tags/keywords: scroll saws patterns designs pattern transfers scrollworking scroll saw arts and crafts

here is the question for not only scrollers,but any wood projects that require the use of patterns purchased from pattern suppliers/companies…...have you ever bought a pattern to find that it is not correct or something is just a bit “off” ?? I don’t think I have ever bought one that I did not have to correct somewhere…..with the exception of Sheila Landry’s Designs whom I recently purchased a letters/numbers pattern set and am extremely pleased with it !!I have gotten scrolling patterns from the “Teddy Bear Co.” & others and every one of them I had to modify….Me and Dad bought the pattern for the “Super Gun” which ends up being over 6’-8” long ..I had to rework that pattern because the curve for the butt stock had the wrong curve at the end (too straight) as well as two other places….I guess my real concern is …..Am I possibly doing something wrong ? maybe I do not know how to properly transfer the pattern to wood ?(transfer carbon paper) or have I inhaled too much saw-dust to think right ??LOL…..The problems are not always a fractional mismatch, but rather negative/positive aspects of shadows and spacing are all wrong..for instance, look at the pattern for a John Deere Tractor 630….the inside rear wheel towards the front is too large…It looks like a HUGE shadow rather than a wheel/tire combo….if you stand 5 feet away its not quite so bad but if you get within 2 feet it looks all wrong…..perhaps it was intended to be a shadow but the rest of the tractor does not reflect that ratio at all…..... Its not just me but several other people have said something to me about this as well…I have reworked this pattern to my satisfaction and the approval of wood workers as well as non wood workers…..I know how difficult and time consuming it is to draw and design patterns…and to actually cut them out to make sure everything stays in place…..because I have done this a bunch of times over and over…....If nothing else this lets me vent !!LOL….I will say this as a recommendation ….Sheila Landry’s designs are by far the best I have purchased even though I only bought one set….I can tell just by looking through her catalog that she and her mate do a great job !!!....and NO she did not put me up to this at all…as always BE SAFE !

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#1 posted 09-03-2012 12:51 PM

As for scroll saw patterns I don’t know much and I don’t often purchase patterns to build things most of my projects come from pictures or out of my head. But reciently I used a downloaded drawing for a stool. I wanted to try building something from a pattern to test myself. I ran through the cutting list making each part to the listed dimensions. As I did something didn’t look correct but I continued on. Then I started assembly, I assembled the front and back leg sections then assembled the front and back leg units with the top side braces. Ok so far, now here is where the problem happens, the back leg cross brace dado was dimensioned too low on the leg and the bottom side brace had an incorrect length to match what was already assembled. So I had to remake the lower side braces and this is when I noticed that the back leg cross brace dado was dimensioned too low. Ok yes I know I should have done a dry fit with clamps first but this was supposed to be a quick simple project assuming that all the parts were drawn correctly to start, you know just like a kit. Sometimes you just get that feeling that something ain’t right but do we listen to that little voice? There was also another problem that being that the 2 part seat was too wide but that just required a quick re-rip to resize it. So I would say YES there can be problems with drawings or plans. But as many have mentioned here in the past it’s the craftsman that knows how to cover up his or in this case their (them that drew the plans) mistakes. Yup it’s frustrating but that’s life and I do suppose you get what you paid for. In my case free plans = not really correct. But if I paid $50 for a set of plans I sure would let someone know about their mistakes.

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#2 posted 09-04-2012 07:01 AM

yeah Mike, that is precisely the problem I have had…you said you do not do scrolling, its all wood working, I get so frustrated having to come back and correct their problems…..but on the other hand, your statement about being a Craftsman is completely correct….I seem to have lost that thinking somewhere along the way,,thank you for correcting me…...I liked the remark about being able to correct the mistakes….some of my best work have been my “mistakes”.....LOL…..My Dad often uses pictures to build some of his furniture and made some amazing things ! drawings or patterns…...hmmmm, guess it did not come to me by genetics or whatever the correct term is…I suppose my question in all honesty was a means of expressing my frustration with buying patterns and expecting them to be dead nuts correct….(as my Dad would say)....the one thing I need but do not have a lot of is patience…..I want to build ….not spend a lot of time re-drawing something that should have been right to begin with…..venting again,sorry ! but thanks for your comments and insights….it made me realize I need to think “Craftsman” not otherwise !!

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