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sIKE

605 posts in 291 days


126 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question torsion box ras

I am working on designing a torsion box to support my RAS. I have never designed one of these before. The thickness and depth are what I am trying to determine. I am shooting to have the top of the RAS table level with the top of my Miter Saw Bench. With that taken into consideration, I have one more item to consider. The dust collection system is pre-ran against the wall and limits the total height of the torsion box itself, if I were to build the torsion box over it. The DC system I have drawn a 5” to make my life easy. I have two options from where I see it. I have been basing this design off of the Torsion Box episode of Wood Works (S04E09)

Option A:
If I build the torsion box over the DC it will be 29 1/4” deep x 26 1/2” wide x 2 13/16” high. I would have to punch a hole in the back of it for the DC (2 1/2” diameter).

Option B
If I move the Torsion box forward of the DC I then could make the box 24 1/4” high x 26 1/2” x 4” deep. I would add a small 5” deep x 26 1/2” wide strip to cover the DC system behind the Torsion box.

I am guessing that the RAS assembly is between 75 – 100 pounds (will get an accurate number here soon), the reason I ask this is how small should I make my grid work? I know Marks sized his to fit his brad nailer. After playing with the math the spacing from Left to Right will be 6 5/8” on center. Once I determine the depth of the box I will work out the spacing front to back. Will this work?

Materials
Interior grid and skins – 1/2” MDF
Outside Grid/Frame – 3/4” MDF

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Lee A. Jesberger

2898 posts in 516 days


126 days ago

Hi sIKE;

Do you have a sketch of what you want to do?

With only three hours sleep, I’m better with pictures.

Lee

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sIKE

605 posts in 291 days


126 days ago

I have two drawings one is very rough so I could get the picture in mind and start chewing on it and the second is not complete as I have not decided on the layout of the top. The first drawing also only took into account the RAS table being 3/4” thick, which has been replaced by the Craftsman RAS recall kit with the top being 1” thick! Here they are…

RAS 1

RAS 2

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sIKE

605 posts in 291 days


126 days ago

I am still fighting the learning curve of Sketchup so my measurements in the drawings maybe off but I hope you can get the idea!.

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sIKE

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126 days ago

Looking at the diagram the panels are wider than they should be….

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sIKE

605 posts in 291 days


125 days ago

Anyone?

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Lee A. Jesberger

2898 posts in 516 days


125 days ago

Hi sIKE;

As per the PM, here’s the photo’s I mentioned. The miter station and drawers aren’t supported from the floor in any way. It does use a torsion box type construction.

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Let me know.

Lee

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rick3ddd

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124 days ago

http://www.amazon.com/Woodworkers-Essential-Facts-Formulas-Short-Cuts/dp/1892836211/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b
Get Ken Horners book. It’s the best info on constructing torsion boxes out there. Folks toss the term around but few really understand what is and how to construct a proper torsion box. There is more bad and incorrect info on torsion boxes on the web. Ian Kirby was the first to publish the torsion box for woodworkers in FWW over 25 years ago. It’s basically aircraft wing engineering. Putting drawers in a torsion box pretty much makes it a non torsion box.

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