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08-26-2012 08:13 PM

Hi All,
It’s been a long time since I’ve visited the forum. You all were a tremendous help with my first coffee table a few years ago.

Anyway, I’d like to build myself an antique reproduction bed.

Roughly the style I’d like to build is something like these beds:

I have a lathe capable of 10’, so the turnings are no problem for me. Mostly I’m wondering the best way to construct the panels. This bed will be for me. I want it to be well built, but it doesn’t need to be heirloom quality. In other words, could I get away with a piece of plywood, with the frame “overlaid” onto it, and veneer the panels?

Or does this need to be full floating solid wood panels, mortise and tenon frames, etc…?

I’m thinking a piece of 3/4” birch ply, veneered, overlay the 1X frames which would be screwed in from behind, and have a piece of 1 1/2” top rail rabbeted to conceal the plywood edge.

Thoughts? Thanks!


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#1 posted 08-26-2012 08:24 PM

I dont think theres any problem with that thought at all beev. It’s your bed, and you can buid it any way you want ;)

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#2 posted 08-26-2012 08:33 PM

I think hardwood plywood wood be the best way to go, so you don’t have to worry about movement, but you should go ahead a make captured panels. It’ll make a stronger head board and will be higher quality, that you won’t have to make excuses for.

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#3 posted 08-26-2012 08:35 PM

Thanks guys.

So how thick should the plywood be and how thick should the frame pieces be? 3/4” frame with 1/4” hardwood plywood panels veneered to match? I just don’t like the thin/rattly flimsy feel. But 3/4” captured panels seems like it would require very thick frame components…

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#4 posted 08-26-2012 09:04 PM

A full captured 1/2” ply panel with 1”-1 1/4” frame would give you some added thickness/strength. I used 1/4” solid floating panel with 1” rails/style one the one I just finished. A thicker frame wouldnt have hurt my feelings any.

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#5 posted 08-26-2012 09:06 PM

Regardless of the material, it’ll be considerable effort to replicate the styles shown, so why not invest in solid woods to honor your work? Cherry or walnut would ge great.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#6 posted 08-26-2012 09:09 PM

Thanks again.
@ shaneA – thanks, good point.

@ clint searl: well, doubtful I could find wood wide enough to make those nice 12”+ panels. And if I did, I don’t have a way to resaw them to 1/4”-1/2”, so I’d be using full 3/4” thick panels. In which case my frame would need to be how thick? But yea, I could go solid wood.

I actually thought i could get nicer figure and have a much easier time with veneer.

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#7 posted 08-26-2012 10:52 PM

I/4” plywood captured in a mortise and tenon frame will be very rigid a long as the individual panels are not too wide and you can glue them in place so they will be solid.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#8 posted 08-26-2012 11:06 PM

thanks bondo,
what do you mean glue them in place?
i thought panels were supposed to be able to expand and contract and “float” inside the frame?

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#9 posted 08-26-2012 11:12 PM

They can be glued if they are plywood. More demensionally stable.

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#10 posted 08-26-2012 11:13 PM

Even if the plywood has a veneer on it?

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#11 posted 08-26-2012 11:17 PM

Plywood always has a veneer on it? If you add veneer of your choice to it, make sure to add an equal piece to the back as well.

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#12 posted 08-26-2012 11:21 PM

Cool. Yes, right, plywood is veneer. But I would probably add a highly figured veneer.

So 1/2” ply in say a 1 1/4” frame would be pretty sweet?

The plywood would save me lots of time and money on this project, I think.
In my opinion it can still be an extremely high quality piece without solid wood panels.

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#13 posted 08-26-2012 11:27 PM

I agree with you there, it will save a lot of time and time is money. If you are not set up to resaw, veneering a figured piece onto ply (or whatever substrate you choose) will be faster/easier/cheaper. I do know that sometimes my local supplier has some figured plywood. Since I just finsihed a frame and panel king bed (shameless plug) I can appreciate the time involved in solid wood panels, but if I had to do it again, ply would be in consideration.

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#14 posted 08-26-2012 11:32 PM

Thanks Shane.
How about a pic of the bed you just finished?

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#15 posted 08-26-2012 11:41 PM

It is in the project section, you may be able to just click on the link under my user name. (2nd shameless plug : ) )

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