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08-26-2012 02:11 AM

Can someone please explain or point me to a resource that explains how to execute pillowed pegs used in G&G furniture?

Thanks – Scott

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali


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#1 posted 08-26-2012 02:20 AM

You mean the cloud lift details?

There’s a book by Darrell Peart. I haven’t read it but I
did read an article by him about doing G&G details.

He’s a member here I think.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#2 posted 08-26-2012 02:25 AM

Thanks for replying Loren. No not the cloud lift details but the raised pegs and splines. They seem simple enough but do you shape them first and risk distortion on insertion or do insert and then shape risking the finished surface sorrounding.

I am actually perusing Darrell’s blog as we speak. Man, he wrote a fine little diddly on design. Talented man, that one.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#3 posted 08-26-2012 03:08 AM

Here’s how to pillow the plugs. Woodwhisperer.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#4 posted 08-26-2012 03:57 AM

I basically do it the way Tommay Mac does them.

1st establish a square hole (square to the project, square in its demensions) in your desired location, and desired method. Either HC mortiser, drill/chisels, or a square mortise chisel used with a hammer/mallet.

2nd then cut out out a long square piece of stock to the almost exact demensions as the pre formed square hole. Then use a hand saw to cut the thin strip in approx 1/2”-3/4” pieces.

3rd I use thin cardboard. One piece doubled over, one piece not. Establish the same demension square hole in both pieces cardboard.

4th put some (little) glue in the hole grab a little square plug, put into hole. Tap it in with a mallet. Slide the double thick cardboard over, and use a flush cut saw to trim flush with cardboard.

5th remove double cardboard, slide over single thickness piece. Pare approx 45° bevel w/sharp chisel around all 4 sides. Then round over w/sandpaper to desired roundness w/cardboard still in place.

The cardboard establishes consistant proudness, and protects wood from chisels, saws, and sandpaper. I know there are other ways, but this will work. Try on practice pieces first.

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#5 posted 08-26-2012 12:15 PM

That’s perfect Shane

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#6 posted 08-26-2012 05:38 PM

I think I remember a post here that led to a web page of “William Ng” I believe he had a video that was rather detailed on those plugs. Kindly note that I don’t have a clue about non-powered stuff and only a bit more about powered stuff. Still it might bear looking at if your doing that pillow plug thing.

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#7 posted 08-26-2012 06:34 PM

Marc’s method (Woodwhisperer) is pretty simple, have used it with success.

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#8 posted 08-26-2012 07:46 PM

Thanks. I’ll will search the TWW site and Mr. Ng’s site.

Thanks so much.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#9 posted 08-26-2012 07:50 PM

William’s tutorial can be found at http://wnwoodworkingschool.com/a-fast-easy-way-to-make-ebony-plugs/

I like this method best.

-- Nicky

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#10 posted 08-27-2012 02:29 AM

Mister Ng’s technique appears the most efficient.

Have any of you tried these pegs using walnut?

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#11 posted 08-27-2012 03:33 AM

@ShaneA: When you say cardboard, are you meaning material like the backing on a legal pad?

I liked your process; that makes sense to me.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#12 posted 08-27-2012 04:05 AM

I’ve never used ebony for plugs. I’ve stained walnut plugs to look like ebony. This works really well, check out http://www.joewoodworker.com/ruststain.htm

Staining the plugs are the last step. By that I mean I have pillowed and cut the plugs, stain plugs then install.

-- Nicky

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#13 posted 08-27-2012 02:20 PM

Yeah, I have only used wanult and zebrawood before.

Lee, I think that type of cardboard would work. Probably the thinner, the better. Not box type cardboard that could be compressed.

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#14 posted 08-27-2012 02:24 PM

Scott, I know a lot of people who use blackwood pen blanks. Way cheaper (and easier to work) than ebony. I turned an ebony pen once and it was pretty nice to work with on the lathe. I’ve got a G & G book if you want me to scan the plug part. I seem to recall them recommending a skew and upward motion with the paring chisel. It pretty much is the same as Shane’s method. I know one guy shapes them on the disc sander.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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