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601 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question walnut

I am working on a walnut project and it seems after putting a coat of ‘Zinsser Bullseye Seal Coat’ 100% wax free Shellac. The wood looks WAY darker than I want it to be.

This wood when first sanded, looks almost purple and outside in the sun sealed it looks good but, inside it is way to dark. I am using walnut endgrain blocks for the panels and I want the grains to stand out!

Should I bleach it some first or use another finish??

Thanks,

-- There was only one perfect carpenter... It wasn't me!


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#1 posted 601 days ago

got any pics ?

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#2 posted 601 days ago

Moron, I do in LJ. They were taken outside with the shellac and without. Check my project, ‘End Grain Blocks’

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#3 posted 601 days ago

Without stripping it down, it is what it is. Personally I think it looks quite nice.

The only way you are going to get that to look “dry” , keeping the colour natural, is to the best of my knowledge and experience a very expensive journey.

Almost all wood darkens when finish is applied, and end grain more so.

You could try sanding it to the point of being polished……….right up to 400, maybe 600 grit paper or higher but the sanding would have to be even, consistent through out or you might get blotchy spots.

Again, its wood and its walnut………and I think it looks nice dark. Walnut is high in tannic acids and therefor oxidizes quickly so no matter what you use……….sooner or later, its going to get dark.

maybe some one else can offer better advice

Kind Regards

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#4 posted 601 days ago

Zinsser is for sealing. It is OK if you are going to top coat with somethings else. Try a one pound coat of amber shellac on a piece of scrap. It does well with walnut. I get my flakes from the Shellac Shack. They are fast and priced reasonably.
A good resource for finishing info is Homestead Finishing. Go to the site and register. There is the General Finishing Forum, Tips and Recipes area. Read these and your learning curve will be enhansed. One can ask questions in the forums that are particular to you situation. Good luck.
It should be noted I have no affiliation to the two aforementioned businesses.

-- Jerry

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#5 posted 601 days ago

Moron;
Walnut lightens over time.

-- Jerry

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#6 posted 601 days ago

Moron,

Thanks, I have plenty of walnut laying around. ;) So I can experiment some. Bout every time I cut into a log, I think man that stuff is pretty and it is. I just wanted the grain to pop out more inside the home with electric lighting. When up close it is fantastic, might be my eyes too. At 8 or more feet back it just looks chocolate colored to me.

Thanks Again,

ed

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#7 posted 601 days ago

Gerald………..only if its in the sun

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#8 posted 601 days ago

Gerald,

Thanks, I will check them out!

I am leaning towards polyu for the top coatings.

ed

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#9 posted 601 days ago

Ed, sometimes its better that our eyes fade with time

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#10 posted 601 days ago

This is by far my favorite recipe for many reasons so to name a few

its easy, doesn’t require a degree in quantum physics

u can buy the ingredients anywhere

scratches, scuffs can be repaired easily

you dont need any special equipment

leaves a rich deep looking finish

easy to control the sheen

food friendly when cured

25% tongue oil / 25 % “real” high end marine varnish/ 50 % mineral spirits and 1 tsp japan dryer per quart

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#11 posted 598 days ago

Moron;
Here is what a huge lumber yard in Jacksonville, FL has on their site. Notice the last sentence.

Walnut has been a popular choice among woodworkers for many years. It machines and glues very well and is extremely stable. The majority of Walnut that is distributed has been steamed. This process blends the heartwood and sapwood in an effort to provide more uniformity in the color of the entire board. The heartwood is brown to black and the sapwood is basically white. Walnut is one of the few woods that actually lighten (instead of darken) with age.

-- Jerry

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