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Forum topic by Ethan Liou posted 08-24-2012 04:49 PM 1039 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ethan Liou

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08-24-2012 04:49 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question plane

This is my #78, which I just got this week. It creates rabbets without problems. A little hard to push, though. So I looked closely. It’s got some wood fiber jammed between the nicker and the plane body.

In the photo below, you can see the nicker protruding from the side of the plane.

I look closely at the space for the nicker, among the grooves (if I may) for the nicker, one is shallower than others. I guess that’s why the nicker is protruding and the jammed fiber.

Right now I am thinking of two possible ways to fix this.
1. file the groove down, to the same depth as others.
2. file the nicker itself to fit the shallower groove.

Does anyone ever encounter such problem? What would you do if this is your plane?

Any thoughts is welcome!

English is not my language. So, If my writing causes any confusion. I’ll try again.

-- Ethan, Taiwan, http://fwwtw.blogspot.tw/


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Bertha

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#1 posted 08-24-2012 04:51 PM

Easy fix, brother. That’s exactly what I did; file the nicker. Just make sure the bevel is facing the right direction and it’s in line with the blade. That’s a really nice looking plane; in great shape. I really like my 78.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#2 posted 08-24-2012 04:56 PM

I’ve read mixed reviews about the 78. Does it do a good job at making rabbets (assuming it’s in decent repair)?

-- More tools, fewer machines.

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#3 posted 08-24-2012 04:57 PM

I would probably file where the nicker sits… that way you can sharpen the nicker on it’s 3 “legs”(?) and just rotate it until you have to re-sharpen. But that’s just me. I also didn’t have this issue on my #45 (only plane I own with a nicker)

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#4 posted 08-24-2012 05:32 PM

Brett, it’s a great little plane; excels at rebates, but does little else, of course. The trick is to get the nicker aligned with the blade edge; and it can be tricky since there’s no cam on the lever cap. I’ve got a Sweetheart era one and a newer one. The Sweetheart is clearly superior. I’ve never used the duplex feature.
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I usually don’t like veritas, but I really like their rebate:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=59999&cat=1,230,41182,48945
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At $240, it’s about $200 more expensive than the #78, though, lol. But you get the skew.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#5 posted 08-24-2012 05:33 PM

Here’s mine in action crossgrain with a thick cut:
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-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#6 posted 08-24-2012 11:03 PM

I’ve got a couple and like them. Id take a needle file or narrow wheel in a Dremel and fix the plane.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#7 posted 08-24-2012 11:59 PM

File the nicker. And yes, the #78 is very usefu. I need to remember to reach for mine more often, actually.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#8 posted 08-25-2012 02:09 AM

Thanks for the inputs, guys. I posted this before I went to bed last night. I was hoping this morning I can get a clear idea what I am going to do with it.

However, we’ve got two votes for filing the nicker, another two votes for filing where the nicker sits. Does that means either way is good as long as the nicker sits nice and tight in its position?

-- Ethan, Taiwan, http://fwwtw.blogspot.tw/

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#9 posted 08-25-2012 03:17 AM

It looks as if the blade is sticking out a good bit out from the body and past the nicker. If that is the case, the nicker is not doing you any good anyway. It is hard to tell from the pics. Like Al said the nicker and edge of the blade need to be aligned for optimal performance.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#10 posted 08-25-2012 03:25 AM

You might file (hone / sand) the inside of the nicker?

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#11 posted 08-25-2012 08:06 AM

A follow-up report.

I decided to file the nicker first. It’s too long. I would have to file it down a bit.

When the nicker is short enough, I put it in the spot. I realized that in order to fit it into the spot perfectly, I would have to make the nicker very thin, probably too thin for planning.

so I file the plane body.

After lining up the blade with the nicker. I went for a test run.

Very smooth, nice to push, and leaves a silky surface.

I want to thank you guys for all your inputs. Thanks a lot!

-- Ethan, Taiwan, http://fwwtw.blogspot.tw/

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#12 posted 08-25-2012 12:15 PM

Nice. Good choice filing the plane. Now its fixed correctly and any knicker will do. :-)

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#13 posted 08-25-2012 05:06 PM

Doncha hate it when your knickers get in a wad?
Good (and correct) fix.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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