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Forum topic by JesseTutt posted 08-19-2012 01:24 PM 1170 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JesseTutt

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08-19-2012 01:24 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question grizzly bandsaw grizzly bandsaw resaw

I am ready to purchase my new bandsaw. I have been encouraged to go with the Grizzly 17” over the Powermatic 14” as I can get more saw for the same money. Currently I am leaning towards the G0513X2B model. It will be used for resawing various hardwoods. I am leaning towards the 3/4” Woodslicer brand of blades. After reviewing Grizzly’s web site and various Internet sites I still have a couple of questions.

1. How well does the quick release level on the Grizzly work? I have read that it is the Carter quick release or at least a clone of it.

2. When Grizzly quotes the height of the machine, does that height include the quick release level when it is in the up position? The bandsaw will be located underneath a shelf that is 7’ above the floor.

3. From the pictures, on Grizzly’s web site, it looks like they are using the same concept of bearings to guide the blade as Carter sells. Is this the Carter blade system or a clone of it? How well does it work?

4. I realize that feed rate would vary based upon the type of wood and its height. How fast can you feed say a 10” piece of oak through the saw?

5. Based upon a good aftermarket blade, if you wanted a 1/2” finish sanded piece how thick would you need to cut the piece with the bandsaw? I guess I need to know how smooth the cut will be.

Thanks,

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri


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Roadster280

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#1 posted 08-19-2012 02:33 PM

I’ve got the G0513P, the basic version of what you are looking at.

1. Works very well. Don’t know what the Carter system is, but this one is a big lever that drops the top wheel a little bit.
2. Mine is 76.5” tall, with the lever up.
3. I have the “Euro” guides, so can’t answer that one. They work well enough, but would prefer the bearing ones.
4. As fast as you like, I did just that a few months ago. It ate through the wood, using a cheap Grizzly 3/4” blade.
5. I don’t have a good aftermarket blade, just cheap Grizzly ones. They work fine. I’d say no more than 1/8” over the finished size, but I haven’t really done much qualitative testing.

I got out of a 14” cast iron saw into this one. It’s night and day better. I like it so much, I just bought a 10” steel frame bandsaw (the Jet) so I could keep a small blade on it, and the big boy on the Grizzly. I could put cast trunnions, better guides, high-end blades etc into the Grizz, but I don’t need to. It works just fine.

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JesseTutt

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#2 posted 08-19-2012 03:43 PM

Carter Products is well known for two products:
1. An aftermarket quick release tension level to replace the manufacturer’s knob crank tension system.
2. Ball bearing replacement blade guide system to replace the steel or Cool Blocks.

In time I would like to get a 14” band saw with a 1/8” blade for scroll type work.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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phiflint

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#3 posted 08-19-2012 04:21 PM

I have the G0514X2B with a 3/4” Woodslicer & I love it. It’s easily my favorite tool in the shop. Admittedly, it’s also my most expensive tool (until the delivery man comes on Tuesday; but I digress).

1. The quick release works just fine. I’m not familiar with the Carter system either, & I’m not sure how I’d judge one quick release system over another (I don’t have a ton of experience with different band saws). I’ll just say, it does what it’s suppose to do & it doesn’t do anything I don’t want it to do. What more could you ask for in a quick release?

2. Mine measured 78” (again, slightly different model) with the handle up. I think you’ll be fine under a 7’ shelf even if you decide to add a mobile base.

3. Again, I’m not familiar with the Carter system but the bearings work well. I had a little trouble, when I first got the saw, getting them exactly in the position described in the manual but, in the end, they work fine.

4. I haven’t done any time studies either (if I had a 10” piece of oak, I’d give it a try for you). I will say, that’s what I love about the saw/blade. It’s crazy fast, especially at resawing.

5. You can get pretty close. In my experience, the surface off the saw is more “fuzzy” than “rough”. I can usually hit it with 80 grit & get a good surface quickly.

I haven’t tried the Powermatic, but I can tell you I am VERY happy with my Grizzly. Good luck.

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Wildwood

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#4 posted 08-19-2012 05:12 PM

You may want to look at on-line owner’s manual to answer your questions. Spec sheet says 80” high you are looking at lifting bolt in pictures of the saw not quick release lever.

Went and looked at owner’s manual page 51 shows loosening and tighten quick release lever. Also says go to page 29 for bearing guide adjustment Hah! Hope they send a better manual with bandsaw. Except for minor difference same manual as G0513×2 bandsaw.

http://cdn0.grizzly.com/manuals/g0513x2b_m.pdf

I like this owner’s manual online better. Little bit more money but comes with free shipping from couple of places, would check if still being offered.

http://www.rikontools.com/manuals/10345.pdf

Both bandsaws have been reviewed here at lumberjocks.

How thick to cut piece of wood to end up with ½” thick board depends upon TPI, tooth style, (hook, raker, skip or blade combinations) blade set, and feed rate. New blade vice old blade will have something to do with that too. Obliviously blade steel carbide, bi-metal, carbon steel blade will affect longevity.

Test cuts should put you in the ballpark.

Good luck with new bandsaw.

-- Bill

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Handtooler

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#5 posted 08-19-2012 05:27 PM

Jessee, I’m sure you’re gonna love that machine! Does not the Grizzly G0513 and its cousins take the 131 1/2” blade and either Grizzly or custom made/welded baldes are your only choices. I have Oldam blades on my current one, but want to upgrede to the Grizzly. So I’m not being negative, just want the knowledge as to what my choices might be. Russell

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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JesseTutt

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#6 posted 08-19-2012 06:07 PM

Russell, Yes the Grizzly takes the 131 1/2” blade and it is not a standard size.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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gfadvm

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#7 posted 08-20-2012 01:56 AM

I have the 17” extreme series like yours so can address your questions. The quick release works perfectly. The quick release lever could easily be bent downward if overhead clearance is a problem. Feed speed depends on what you are cutting and what blade you are using. The fastest resaw blade I have used is a 1”, 1 TPI bi-metal from Timberwolf. I buy all my 131 1/2” blades from Timberwolf and they seem to be in stock as I never have to wait long to get them. I have had no problems with the Grizz bearing guides but I use the Carter Stabilizer on my 1/4” and smaller blades to cut tighter radii. Hope this helps.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#8 posted 08-20-2012 03:51 PM

You don’t have to worry about having a band saw running with a blade that is not in standard size. My source for good quality blades has it. Visit www.sawblade.com.

-- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live"

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