LumberJocks

Restoring 965 brace, how do I remove the jaws?

  • Advertise with us

« back to Hand Tools forum

Forum topic by YoungOne posted 08-16-2012 11:36 PM 1721 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View YoungOne's profile

YoungOne

4 posts in 1577 days


08-16-2012 11:36 PM

Topic tags/keywords: stanley brace restore

I have been following Brit’s wonderful blog post on how to a restore a hand brace to “like new” and have run into a little trouble.

I am trying to remove the jaws in the brace “head” and am just not able to hold by mouth in the right way to get the jaws out. I assume that I need to separate the jaws to get them to come out but I just can’t seem to get it right and I feel like maybe I’m missing something obvious.

The jaws look like standard “J” type jaws with no spring, like on this ebay listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-Bit-Brace-Jaws-Fit-965-965N-965NR-966-975-1251-1253-Models-Rare-New-/250984543566?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6fd8354e#ht_4713wt_1397

Can someone help me to get these out so I can clean my brace up well?

Thank you.


7 replies so far

View Don W's profile

Don W

17969 posts in 2033 days


#1 posted 08-16-2012 11:38 PM

Pictures may help. You can’t just spin the head off?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

View YoungOne's profile

YoungOne

4 posts in 1577 days


#2 posted 08-16-2012 11:51 PM

Here’s me trying to pull it out of the head. The shoulders of the jaws are wider than the opening through which they should pass. It seems like I should slide the jaws apart but I can’t figure out how to do that either. I ain’t the sharpest plane in the toolbox.

View Don W's profile

Don W

17969 posts in 2033 days


#3 posted 08-17-2012 12:03 AM

I think there is a pin. Maybe its worked out and is catching. Can you see what stopping it? The ones I have restored just fall out.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

View YoungOne's profile

YoungOne

4 posts in 1577 days


#4 posted 08-17-2012 12:59 AM

There is a pin sticking out from one side and hooked in to the other. It is slightly angled down.That pin is what holds them together. It looks like if I were to just be able to separate the jaws, I could get it out.

If I try to pull it straight out as you see in the picture below, they get stuck (ie: the shoulders hang up) but I can see the pin and it isn’t caught on anything.

When I set the head down on my desk, the jaw pieces nearly come apart but not quite. This is as “loose” as they get as far as I can tell. If I pull on the side with the pin it only seems to pull the other side up and toward it. (This is the view from the butt end of the head)

The pin has a slight ridge on it near the end but I can’t tell if it’s enough to keep them together, especially considering that it looks like the jaw “shoulders” are touching the sides when it is loosest.

View Brit's profile

Brit

6730 posts in 2308 days


#5 posted 08-17-2012 10:04 PM

Have you tried holding the jaws with a pair of pliers and wiggling the head to try and pull them out. I’ve never worked on a brace with those type of jaws but I have had some jaws that needed a bit of persuasion.

-- Andy -- "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." (Michelangelo)

View YoungOne's profile

YoungOne

4 posts in 1577 days


#6 posted 08-18-2012 04:09 AM

I have tried wiggling them and twisting them quite a bit and tried again tonight after you mentioned it.

At this point I’m thinking about leaving them in there. I want the brace to work more than I want it to be pretty and I figure if I’m having this hard of a time getting them out it maybe even worse getting them back in.

Btw…thank you so much for the tutorial! You’ve really helped a not-so-rich woodworker-wannabe get some decent starter tools.

View Dan Krager's profile

Dan Krager

3265 posts in 1699 days


#7 posted 04-13-2013 01:08 AM

I know the trick and to you I’m going to show it..(if you want your boomerang to come back, well, first you’ve got to throw it!)

I worked and worked on this eventually getting frustrated like you. I shook it vigorously in exasperation and the dumb things fell right out the “back” end. Not the end of an hour’s work though. I had to study how that happened because I thought I had tried everything.

First put the shell in a vise (gently) so it will be steady. The clearances are tight. The basic goal is to work the jaws until the mating faces are at right angles to each other. Keep them in the center of the shell where there is the most clearance for them. Be patient, but the pin will eventually come out of the hole as one jaw rolls away from the other. Then they will “fall” out the threaded end one at a time. Here is evidence that they come out!


DanK

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com There are three types of people...those who are good at math and those who aren't.

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com