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307 days ago |
I know most woodworkers use the term tension rather than strain. In sawmillcreek.org, a thread has been trending with comments regarding which is right, strain or tension? As a non-expert to the field, I would like to ask LJ’s regarding this subject and your knowledge. What do you think? Is tension and strain the same? -- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live" |
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#1 posted 306 days ago |
I use tension to distinguish it from compression. -- Bondo Gaposis |
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#2 posted 306 days ago |
Non expert opinion… I don’t think of tension and strain being the same in the context of wood. Strain causes a board to warp or deform in someway (e.g. as it looses moister) Tension is released when I cut a strained board, and this deforms my cutoff in someway. But what do I know. My 2cents. -- Nicky |
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#3 posted 306 days ago |
Tension or compression describe the load being applied to a particular item. Strain is a measure of how much that item deflects due to an applied load. |
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#4 posted 306 days ago |
Strain is technically the amount of UNIT deformation (so much deformation per unit of length – think of it as “inch per inch”). The total amount of elongation or shortening is strain x the length of the member. Tension is a force; its units are units of force, like pounds. It causes a tensile stress which is a function of the cross-sectional area of the member (stress = force divided by area, for lb/sq. in.) -- My broker promised me he would treat my money as if it were his own. Trouble is, he did. |
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#5 posted 306 days ago |
World English Dictionary — n [C16: from Latin tensiō, from tendere to strain] strain/strān/ -- When did quiet and quite become the same word ? I'm guessing about the same time as your and you're did. |
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#6 posted 306 days ago |
RickRogers has it…Strain is a measurement of how much something is stretched. That’s the engineering definition, by the way. Common woodworing context may be different. The behavior Nicky is describing (a board warping after it is cut) is something that metals to also and is cased by residual internal stress. -- Dylan C ...Seems like all ever I make is sawdust... |
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#7 posted 306 days ago |
No, what he defined is deformation, and deformation and strain are not the same thing. http://www.mechatools.com/en/definition.html -- My broker promised me he would treat my money as if it were his own. Trouble is, he did. |
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#8 posted 306 days ago |
So, when does strain apply when we deal with band saw blades? -- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live" |
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#9 posted 305 days ago |
I’m not sure what you mean. The blade manufacturer has (probably) an allowable tensile stress on the blade material. That and the cross sectional area determine the allowable tension. The strain is what it is; in this application, it doesn’t seem to me to be important to know it. I can tell you, for example, where it would be important to. I’m a bridge engineer, and sometimes, we want to know the actual stress on a member in service, so we put strain gauges on it. We measure the strain, and using these relationships between force, area, stress and strain, we can calculate the actual stress on it. -- My broker promised me he would treat my money as if it were his own. Trouble is, he did. |
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#10 posted 303 days ago |
As you’ve mentioned that strain is the amount of unit of deformation or elongation, wouldn’t elongation or deformation happen in a band saw blade? I think this is what I was supposed to ask. -- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live" |
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#11 posted 289 days ago |
Yes, yes it would. -- My broker promised me he would treat my money as if it were his own. Trouble is, he did. |
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