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Forum topic by KnickKnack posted 08-11-2012 04:19 PM 1065 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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KnickKnack

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08-11-2012 04:19 PM

Topic tags/keywords: splines question

I’m building my very first “thing” (it’s not a box, but if you think box you’ll be fine) using pure 45° joints. And, of course, I’m thinking of deploying splines like this…

(this image nothing to do with me, just copied from here)

I understand the need for, and the potential beauty of, the splines – this isn’t my question.

Every video I’ve ever seen, every book I’ve ever read, every blog I’ve ever digested, every jig I’ve seen about adding these splines consists of …
  1. Glue box together
  2. Holding your piece at 45° with some form of jig, cut the slots for the splines
  3. Add splines

I don’t have a table saw, and, even if I did, us Europeans aren’t supposed to make that kid of cut, so I’m going to be doing it with my 45° jig on the router table – basically a similar idea as with a table saw.

I can, and have, loaded the two pieces that will go together into my jig, before I’ve glued the thing together. Applying only brain cells and zero actual experience to this problem, I can’t see what might be wrong with cutting the slots first. If anything, it seems this will help me when I glue the things together – at least the joints won’t be able to slide sideways.

However, it’s late so “work” is suspended for today, and I thought I’d ask – any reasons not to cut the spline slots first?

Thanks in advance.

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."


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#1 posted 08-11-2012 04:34 PM

I have only done it on a TS with the joint(s) already glued, I have seen it done with a hand saw as well. Never tried it before gluing, but I guess if you keep everything perfectly aligned, you would be ok, but it would have to be dead on.

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#2 posted 08-11-2012 04:41 PM

Cutting the slots first can be done, just need to be very precise. You also risk a greater chance for tear-out of the end grain fibers.

Cutting slots after the miter is glued gives you a better chance at a perfect fit for your splines and less of a chance for tear-out.

I’ve installed the splines with nothing more then a small handsaw.

-- Nicky

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Eric in central Florida

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#3 posted 08-11-2012 05:20 PM

Shane & Nicky have both hit the high points.
(Plus, I think it’s just easier doing it after the glue up.)

-- All glory comes from daring to begin.

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#4 posted 08-11-2012 05:28 PM

They may not line up and then you have additional choices to make

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Gene Howe

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#5 posted 08-11-2012 06:05 PM

KnickKnack,
Why not use a dovetail bit to cut your slots?
As to cutting them first, I see no advantage.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#6 posted 08-11-2012 06:13 PM

We all do things in our own way so get it a try and see what you think. My guess is it’s easier once the boxes are put
together. That’s the way I have done it, but what ever floats your boat.:)) You are great at making very unique projects so I anxious to see what you come up with.

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#7 posted 08-11-2012 10:37 PM

I have had my nightmares with splines. I have tried cutting them first but wasn’t careful enough and wrecked the wood. I have only ever completed one box with splines. I cut them with the miter joints already made. They can be done first but I agree with Nicky, you have to be very careful. Good luck and I’m looking forward to see how it all turns out :)

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