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08-11-2012 02:54 PM

I’ve been looking seriously at upgrading my smallish 36” old craftsman jointer and my cheap ryobi planer to one of the combo machines. I have a 20×20 shop/garage so space is limited. I’ve been leaning towards saving for the Jet jjp12 as it looks like it gets decent reviews, but it’s still around $2400. I recently saw a Rikon 25-200 that looks comparable to the jet for less money. Plus I’ve heard good things about Rikons customer service. It’s around $1700. Are there any other machines worth looking at for around the same price point, or should I be considering a good quality 8” jointerwith helical head and make do with my ryobi planer until I can afford a nicer one?

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com


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#1 posted 08-11-2012 05:29 PM

Jet often has 10% off sales .. which would save you a couple hundred bucks if you can wait for the next one. As far as the Rikon vs Jet

Fine woodworking compares the Rikon to the Jet
http://www.finewoodworking.com/ToolGuide/ToolGuideProduct.aspx?id=34602

Their take on the jet
http://www.finewoodworking.com/ToolGuide/ToolGuideProduct.aspx?id=34600

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#3 posted 08-12-2012 01:47 AM

Greg,
I have a felder combo machine and I like the feature of both the infeed and outfeed tables rising when switching from jointer to planer. the rikon has one fixed table which I could see as a pain after awhile. Have you checked out the hammer line of jointer planers? You might find one in your budget.

Mike

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#4 posted 08-17-2012 03:43 PM

Tylertool has their jet jjp12 on sale for 15% off plus free shipping bringing the total to $1869. I may pull the trigger on it. Any reasons why i shouldn’t? The similar hammer machine is around $3300 and I’m sure it’s a wonderful piece of equipment and if I was making my living on woodworking, I’d be set on that machine. but it’s hard to justify almost double the cost for a machine that’s going to perform similar. It’s 1000x better than the cheap ryobi planer and antique craftsman jointer that I have now.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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#5 posted 08-17-2012 04:33 PM

I’ve done some research on the combos and the general opinion seemed to be it was impossible to get the jointer tables coplanar. I looked at the Jet and the Rikon specifically.

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#6 posted 08-17-2012 04:40 PM

I’m surprised! It seems like all the reviews are good on the jet machine.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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#7 posted 08-17-2012 04:43 PM

Not all of the reviews …

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1673

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1180

Sorry, I should have read your post a little better, you are obviously looking at larger ones. I’m not sure on those, but the 10” models do not seem to do very well.

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#8 posted 08-17-2012 08:19 PM

Yeah, I was gonna say. I have not heard much good about those smaller 110v units, but the larger 220v units, particularly the JJP12 model, seems to get great reviews. I’m still tempted to pull the trigger, but my wife is saying no way. Looks like I may have to sneak that sucker into the garage. ;)

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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#9 posted 08-17-2012 08:26 PM

Have you looked at Grizzly’s at all? I know they make them and they may be priced competitively

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#10 posted 08-17-2012 08:29 PM

I have, but my biggest dislike of that model if the fact that the fence must be removed in switching over to planing mode and it’s a two part table. The jet is a one piece table and the fence doesn’t need to be moved. Seems like an easier process. The hammer looks awesome, but is almost double the price and for my home/hobbyist type workshop, that might be way overbuying for what my needs are.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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#11 posted 08-17-2012 10:41 PM

I had a lot of grief myself trying to narrow my choices down. There were no places I could go to actually see any of these combos in person. After many hours on the internet reading reviews and watching videos I decided on the Hammer A3-31 12 inch combo. The 4 horse motor won me over. After shipping it was around $4000.00 but I think it was the best choice. The tool is very solid and user friendly. No regrets.

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#12 posted 08-17-2012 11:03 PM

I take it you already have a 220v outlet?
For me, the 220v issue and the 600lb weight would be unattractive. I too have a small shop and often need to move machines around. I also like the ability to move my planer and jointer outdoors when possible. I have a DC, but these machines still make a mess. All that said, I’d opt for a seperate jointer and planer. Just my .02/

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#13 posted 08-17-2012 11:13 PM

I also have a hammer A3-31 12inch combo machine .. I ordered it with the mobile base (there are other alternatives for mobile base) .. and it’s easy to move around once that’s on.

There was a thread on sawmillcreek about alignment issues with the Jet JJP-12 inch with the tables drifting out of co-planer.
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?166810-About-to-throw-my-JJP-12-through-the-window

And frustration that motor will shut off with extended use and you have to let it cool down before you can use again. http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1865 this review talks about it. I’ve read that you get about 30 minutes or so until it shuts down and won’t let you start it again until the motor has cooled off.

Those reasons where why I saved up longer and went with the Hammer.

With that said, I have dealt with Jet’s support and they are very helpful and friendly, although I can say the same for felder group (felder called me a few times after my purchase just to make sure everything was ok and if I had any questions).

Really it’s about price point, I think the Jet is the best in that pricepoint, if you can afford to wait and save to get a hammer that’s great .. if you can’t .. there is nothing wrong with that either.

-jeremy

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#14 posted 08-18-2012 02:33 AM

Dang, ok. I thought the sale was gonna do it, but I’ll keep saving. The hammer machine looks like it would be solid. It’s just so hard justifying double the price. Is the hammer machine really worth double?

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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#15 posted 08-18-2012 02:36 AM

You’re wise to get the higher quality machine Greg. Very good.

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