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Blackie_

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So today I was in my local woodcraft store picking up some dye and starting talking to the clerk about my process of how I finish my boxes, I told him that I was lacquering over Tung oil and he asked me why, me dumb founded didn’t have an answer he then asked how long I was allowing it to dry before putting the top coat on, I told him 1 day he told me Tung Oil needs up to 6 days drying depending, 1 day wasn’t long enough, I responded with I really don’t want to wait that long for drying, he asked if I was getting flacking I told him a couple times I did, well he then told me if I was using Lacquer that Tung Oil is an unnecessary step, I didn’t need it just use the Lacquer only. Does that sound about right? Tung oil not needed just Lacquer?

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Randy

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#1 posted 614 days ago

No expert here, but it seems to me that tung oil deepens/enhances the wood color more than lacquer. I havent used a lacquer only finish, so not sure how it impacts color. Tung oil does have a long dry time, that I know.

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#2 posted 614 days ago

Well most of my projects yes I like the results I get when I use Tung Oil, Thanks Billy for that info and Shane. I’ll continue as I was, I can say this that when I did get that flacking there was moisture in the air so I’m thinking that may have caused it? Also it only happed on walnut not the other woods, I’ll give drying time 48 hours, I’m in the Texas climate and it’s been up in the triple digets here.

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#3 posted 614 days ago

Yeah, I have really only noticed it on walnut and rosewood. Both when rushed on dry time.

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#4 posted 614 days ago

Randy, I am not a finish expert, but I can tell you what works for me. I have started using tong oil as the first coat on my boxes. It deepens the colors and gives me a richer look, and seals porous grains. I coat part of the box and then quickly wipe it off with a paper towel to even out the coat, reduce drying time and eliminate any runs. I don’t let the wet coat sit very long on most woods before I wipe it off. Then I give it at least two day’s drying time before a steel wool rub then applying the first of two coats of wipe-on poly with wool or sanding between coats. Finally, I apply Johnson’s paste wax with a 0000 steel wool pad. It is labor intensive, but the finish looks and feels great and holds up to everyday use.

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#5 posted 613 days ago

It sounds like the Tung oil does give your boxes a richer look, so it is needed in the process. I know what you mean about wanting to finish faster, but after you have so much work in them, you don’t want to have finish problems. You should follow the manufacturer’s recommendations. Maybe there is some other product that can enhance the color that drys quicker!!

I once built a bar in my daughter’s house and I had about 8 coats of brushed on poly on the top. I wanted to make it totally free of finishing marks, so I sprayed on the last 4 coats. I had been waiting overnight for the brush on poly so I did the same for the sprayed on stuff. After the second coat of spray on was on there for a few minutes, the whole top wrinkled and I had to strip it. What a mess. Then I read the label and it said to wait 5 days to thoroughly dry before applying the second coat. I do now!!

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#6 posted 613 days ago

I usually do a “finish over oil” finish on my projects. The finishing process generally takes me 8 to 10 days. It’s a long process but totally worth it

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Blackie_

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#7 posted 613 days ago

What I’m prob going to have to do then is work in groups meaning getting several projects ready for finish and do them all at the same time, maybe this will help speed up the process due to the dry time.

Thanks everyone you all were a great help! A bottle round for everyone :) I’ll continue as I’ve been doing and chalk it up to the clark at woodcraft with misinofrmation.

Randy

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