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Forum topic by Jerry posted 08-05-2012 02:32 AM 1674 views 1 time favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jerry

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08-05-2012 02:32 AM

Our shop is fairly small by cabinet shop standards, about 50 X 40. We do have a 20 X 20 shed storage connected to the end of our shop. We just use the 20 X 20 space to store cabinets sometimes.

We just bought our Delta Cyclone with 5 hp Leeson. It came with the cyclone, motor, a large stand, heavy gauge duct work, impeller housing and impeller. I need to purchase a barral (chip collector) and wynn filters ($300.00 +).

I want to place the DC in the storage space and vent the fine dust out back into a 5 micron bag (because there are neighbors). This keeps the fine dust out of our shop, and also keeps the noise from the DC at a minimum. It also means I will not have to pay 300.00 for wynn filters.

My questions are:

Are there wireless remotes for 5 hp motor that will work for this application.

Will this set up work fine or am I missing something.

Keep in mind our shop is wide open, we have overhead doors open and walk through doors open as well.

Instead of spending 300.00 on wynn filters, I would be spending a little more then 100.00 on wire to provide power to the unit and also I need to spend ?? $$$$$$ on wireless remotes to turn on the dust collector.

Thanks for the advice. Jerry

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net


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jcoop

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#1 posted 08-05-2012 03:13 AM

I am setting up a remote control for my 5hp compressor so the same thing would work on the DC

What you need

1. Contactor 220v 30amp, make sure it’s rated for the HP you are using. Mine was $12.00
2. You have to decide how to trigger the contactor, could be as simple as just a switch on the wall or something that comes on every time a blast gate is open. Low voltage is great for blast gates.
3. An enclosure to house the contactor.

That’s about it.

Saw on another forum where one Gent. used a cheap radio shack light controller to trigger the contactor so he had a wireless remote in his hand.

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 08-05-2012 11:55 AM

Jcoop has it. My DC also has a 5HP Leeson, and that’s how I set it up. You can get the contactor from any industrial supply, even Clearvue. The one I use is rated for 40 amps, way overkill. The switch I use is a $10 lamp remote from Menards. You could buy a several, and use as many remotes as you need…plus when they fail (and they will fail) they are cheap to replace. To enclose the contactor I used a weather tight plastic electrical box I got at big blue in the outdoor conduit section, cost about $10. I think your setup will work fine. If you go the route of the contactor you will also need a 120V power source (to power the coil) so plan for that in the wiring installation, that could be the switches that jcoop suggested.

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Gene Howe

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#3 posted 08-05-2012 01:53 PM

Just a thought….Why not forgo the bag entirely and vent it into a covered container?

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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pintodeluxe

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#4 posted 08-05-2012 06:06 PM

I like where this is going.
I too would be tempted to vent the DC straight into a hole in the lid of a 4 yard dumpster.
I have seen woodshops with this arrangement inside the workspace, so in your situation, dust for the neighbors shouldn’t be an issue.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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jcoop

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#5 posted 08-05-2012 06:34 PM

I am planning on venting outside as well. May just dump on the ground, but I am out in the sticks where it would not be an issue.

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Jerry

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#6 posted 08-05-2012 08:06 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. I will certainly do this and try and figure out how to utilize the contact method while using a common remote for the 5 up DC. I am certainly excited about setting up the DC.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Gene Howe

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#7 posted 08-05-2012 08:46 PM

Hi jcoop,
We are also in the boonies and I vent straight outside. But, with the “cyclone” lidded trash can before the unit, I get hardly any dust outside.
Sure saves some space though, doesn’t it.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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djg

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#8 posted 08-05-2012 10:31 PM

Venting outside would be a great idea. Get all the harmful stuff out of the shop. I will mention that removing the filters and venting outside, will decrease the static pressure in your system and increase the airflow. This of course means your dc will be drawing more amperage. This may not be a problem given the size of your shop. I have a feeling that the static pressure for your ducting system will far outweigh the lack of static pressure decrease from the absence of the filter…and the motor is 5hp.

-- DJG

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Sawkerf

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#9 posted 08-05-2012 11:00 PM

Noise issues? The neighbors may not appreciate the sound of a 5hp motor. – lol

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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Jerry

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#10 posted 08-05-2012 11:41 PM

Sawkerf, LOL, as long as I don’t have to deal with the noise…. Actually it will be in a storage shed so the noise should be reduced even for the neighbors :)

As far as getting the harmful dust out of the shop, I think it will be an evolving process over the next couple of years. Along with the greatly improved DC I will also be working at improving the dust collection hoods at each of our machines. It sure will be nice to eliminate the vast majority of all dust / chips.

Anything to start with will be a great improvement though. Currently our only DC is a 2 hp Grizzly and it is only used for the planer, shaper, drill press and drum sander. It does capture most of the large chips from those machines but several other machines in the shop have no dust collection at all such as the 3 table saws, the 2 RAS and the 2 slider miter saws.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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kizerpea

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#11 posted 08-06-2012 12:11 PM

venting out side is a sure way…also sucks out the heat in winter….warm air out cold air in ..wear your coat.

-- IF YOUR NOT MAKING DUST...YOU ARE COLLECTING IT! SOUTH CAROLINA.

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CL810

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#12 posted 08-06-2012 10:13 PM

If your furnace is in your work room, the pull from the DC can pull the furnace’s exhaust (carbon monoxide) into the work area and cause anything from headaches, nausea, fainting,.....

-- "It's amazing how much can go wrong when you think you know what you're doing."

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raydawg

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#13 posted 12-20-2012 09:52 PM

anyone have any pics of how they vented their DC outside? My shop is my 2 car garage and I usually work with the big door open. I can vent to the outside because a typical garage vent is right next to the dust collector.

My question is mainly what to fabricate? I can run a 6”hose right through the garage vent without having to cut a hole in the garage wall, so that’s easy. But what do I do with the dust collector? Just put a wooden circle on top of the DC with a 6” hose connection?

Pictures would be helpful here.

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Grandpa

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#14 posted 12-21-2012 12:29 AM

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raydawg

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#15 posted 12-21-2012 04:06 AM

Grandpa ,

I looked at the link but it was for a remote switch setup.

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