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b2rtch

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758 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: jointer

Well I went to get my Powermatic jointer this morning and of course I started to work on it this afternoon.
Here are some pictures of the jointer;


The tables are flat and in good shape.


The fence is straight and in good shape


Here is what I found when I open the door to check the belts


The motor has been replaced



Two out of the three knives are broken!! How the previous owner did that and how could he have used the machine like that? When I started the machine yesterday it was no vibration at all.

I replaced the plug on the cord and I plugged it, the machine started immediatly and here is the result, the extra major bummer.

The blades adjusters and the piece of the table flew all over the shop.
One of the adjuster broke the table.
I could have been very seriously hurt and I was not.
Hallelu Yah!

-- Bert


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Blackie_

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#1 posted 758 days ago

WOW! and OUCH! Sorry to see this Bert

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dhazelton

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#2 posted 758 days ago

I won’t beat on you and say “shoulda’ opened the housing…” A replaced motor wouldn’t bother me, or the sawdust. But the knives – that chip happened when you turned it on with a broken knife? You should call the seller and rip him a new one. You coulda’ been killed!

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Don Broussard

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#3 posted 758 days ago

Thank God you weren’t hurt. I feel bad for you and your new (to you) machine. Is that broken table something that can be repaired or is replacement the only real option?

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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ChuckV

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#4 posted 758 days ago

Bert,

Above all else, I am so glad that you were not hurt. I hate to think about how bad this could have been.

And, it sure is a bummer about the table.

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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b2rtch

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#5 posted 758 days ago

I have a friend who has a welding shop, I shall ask him if he can re-weld the table.
The most important thing is that I was not hurt.

-- Bert

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steviep

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#6 posted 758 days ago

Man, what a lesson for all of us, think of the power it took do that and what chance our fingers would stand. Glad your OK.

-- StevieP ~ Micheal Tompkins - you were not here on earth long but left a giant mark on us. RIP Brother

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KayBee

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#7 posted 758 days ago

Wow, first time I’ve ever seen that! And I’ve been around machinery to long. Glad you didn’t get hurt. Guess your guardian angel was watching out for you.

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#8 posted 758 days ago

Looks like cast. I would not try to weld it. Are parts available for it?

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Kookaburra

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#9 posted 758 days ago

This is the scariest things I have read on this site. Serious fear has always been the main reason I do not buy used equipment. But that fear is usually that I will buy something that has been irreparably abused and damaged. Not that my purchase will try to kill me. I am going to have nightmares.

Bert – I consider you one of the luckiest guys in the world right now.

-- Kay - Just a girl who loves wood.

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Loren

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#10 posted 758 days ago

It can be braised. This is a bummer but neither uncommon nor
unfixeable. . A lot of vintage jointers have damage to that
thin edge. The larger and truer the jointer the less it matters
in terms of machine value. I had a newer Asia jointer with a
chipped corner and they had braised it at the factory, ground
the repair, painted it and shipped it to USA.

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Mainiac Matt

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#11 posted 757 days ago

Ouch…. glad you weren’t hurt….

got to be very carefull firing up used machines you have no history with…

I’m guessing that the blades may not have been broken when you brought it home, but the chipbrakers were loose and when you fired her up, centrifugal force quickly moved the blade out into the table, and then they were smashed.

live and learn

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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b2rtch

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#12 posted 757 days ago

As I wrote above, I ran the jointer before I bought it and it was running fine.
How the knives got broken I have no idea, I never saw that before.
I am pretty sure that they have broken for quite while.
My mistake is that I did not take the blades adjusters out when I removed the blades( thanks God, the chip-breakers were out) but this is not something I usually necessary to do.
Why the machine started as soon as I plugged it in is the question.
I already had a replacement paddle switch on order before the accident , now I really need to replace this switch. Contrary to TopamaxSurvivor’s advise, I shall have the table brazed and it should be OK as this not a stress part.In fact the machine could be run as it is.
The repair is more cosmetic than anything else
Previous to the accident I was considering replacing the shaft and knives with an helix one, now I am pretty sure that this is what I am going to do.

I have more than one guardian angels and I keep them all very busy, a little less busy now that I no longer ride a motorbike; I had many accidents.
My favorite one is named Abba (Father)

-- Bert

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ChuckV

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#13 posted 757 days ago

The damage to your jointer reminds me of a machine that I saw when I took a workshop at the North Bennet St School. They keep it around as a reminder. In this case, someone made a mistake when replacing the knives. Since the knives are held in place by turning the bolts counterclockwise, someone made a mistake by tightening the bolts in the clockwise direction on one of the knives.

In that case, the chunk of cast iron that broke off was significantly larger. Luckily, no one was hurt there either.

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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GMman

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#14 posted 757 days ago

Bert don’t try to weld cast it’s a waste of time it’s only a small piece why not try Locktite it should hold it in place.
I fixed a small vise with Locktite and it’s stiil holding.

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Jamie Speirs

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#15 posted 757 days ago

Bert glad your ok

I had a steel piece inlaid when I got a break

worked well.

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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