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justinwdemoss

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722 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: jet lathe 1642 variable speed lathe variable demo used sale

I was at my local woodworking store fantasizing over a Jet 1642 lathe (currently available for $2299.99 for the 1 1/2 hp 110v). The owner offered me the store demo model with less than 50 hours of run time, used only by store employees and well maintained. Jet will start the 5 year warranty upon my purchase. His price $1850. What do you all think, is that a deal, or can I do better?

Justin

-- Justin in Loveland, OH


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Doss

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#1 posted 722 days ago

I think you’re going to have a tough time beating that for one with a 5-year warranty honored by the manufacturer. A used one might be cheaper, but you’ll have to wait for one to pop up (could be a long while). Plus, most places that come close to that price are going to require shipping (and possibly taxes). I don’t see anyone even in that ballpark for price though. Most of them are hundreds more.

If it’s what you’ve wanted and you have the cash, I’d buy it and not think twice.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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Wildwood

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#2 posted 722 days ago

Would ask store people if lathe was returned by a previous owner if so why before buying. Also ask to give it a test drive at the store before buying. Store is offering at a used lathe price so whether a demo or return lathe very important. Hope you understand the difference. Would definitely want to know stores return policy on that lathe too before buying!

If everything checks out nice lathe at good price.

-- Bill

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 722 days ago

I think with a 5 year warranty your risks are minimal, if that lathe otherwise fits what you want you had better grab it. I don’t think if it was a return they could offer that warranty….usually those (returns) are sold as “refurbs” and have a shorter warranty time.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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AHuxley

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#4 posted 722 days ago

I would call Toolnut and get their price (they often are well below MAPP even when no sales are going) then compare that to the demo version.

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#5 posted 722 days ago

$2566 at Toolnut. Unless you come upon some sale or unlisted price I’m not seeing, I don’t see anyone getting near that price unless it’s used with no warranty from a private seller.

Just make sure you get the warranty in writing and check to see if it runs right before leaving (if possible). I come across deals like this all the time picking up floor models and damaged shipping boxes. All I do is make sure it runs right and hand them some cash.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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AHuxley

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#6 posted 722 days ago

Doss, did you call? Thats the only way you will get their real price. $2299 is the current MAPP on that machine. In the past TN sold the 2hp version very close to the MAPP of the 1 3/4hp version, though I can’t remember anyone buying the 1 3/4 who commented on their price.

The bottom line is it is a good price, about $100 less than it sells for when Jet/PM has their usual twice yearly 15% off sale.

Edit: Just called to check the 1 3/4hp is $2116 and change and the 2hp is $2246 and change, free lift gate shipping (obviously) and no tax unless the OP is in NY. I don’t know what the OP’s state/local sales tax is (or if they have any) but $1850 plus tax here would be $2035, in that case I would spend the extra $115 for the new car smell, or actually for $211 more I would get the 2hp.

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#7 posted 722 days ago

AHuxley, I just went to their website. I agree with your statement though. If the taxes add up and the prices get too close, I’d much rather have a new one.

Although, I would bring that price back to the owner of the “used” one and see if he’s willing to haggle some. Otherwise, if the difference is indeed $100-200 (at this price point, < 10%), I’d buy new.

There are some things to be said about buying local though. One, it’s money in your community’s pocket. Say what you want about how that money is spent after, but it’s still local money. Two, if you have an issue with a purchase this large, you can go to the store and see what help they can offer first.

This is the reason why I still buy TV’s and other large items locally. I just don’t feel like dealing with someone over the phone about issues I’m having over something so expensive. Plus, if I have to return it, it normally involves me paying at least the shipping back to them which can be a lot for large/heavy items.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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Wildwood

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#8 posted 722 days ago

You can buy reconditioned NOVA lathes with manufacturer’s warranty.

http://www.novatoolsusa.com/RECONDITIONED-NOVA-DVR-XP-Wood-Turning-Lathe-55175-R.htm

Many people return serviceable woodworking equipment and pay a restocking fee every day. Those problems might stem from lack of funds, or just not what expected. People that have minor problems may not want to deal with bad customer service at store or manufacturer or pay shipping back to manufacturer to get issues resolved.

Jet lathes normally shipped from factory to you or store. Very few stores maintain an inventory of full size lathes anymore. Most stores get a few dollars for taking your order and re-stocking fee if dissatisfied.

I would rather know person cancelled order, did not want to turn vice lathe had problems only factory can repair before buying. Especially want to know if lathe is a lemon what re-stocking fees are vice shipping off to manufacturer before buying.

Think can still buy new 220V Rikon 1642 for about $1850. Woodcraft runs sales on them couple times a year.

-- Bill

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AHuxley

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#9 posted 722 days ago

@Doss Toolnut is the only one I know that beats MAPP on WMH products routinely and they are the go to retailer for many folks on turning forums and they are very nice people to deal with BUT I have never bought anything from them, I just knew you had to call.

I agree with the buying local issue to some degree, I also believe in buying US made but imagine if I had suggested a Robust the OP may have balked a little… If the difference was for a new lathe I would buy local, in this case I would have it shipped to my house. Funny enough I have found large purchase returns easier with big etailers than local and often quicker to get a replacement and never paid a penny for return shipping, but every situation is different.

Bottom line it is a good deal at his local WC just wanted to show exactly how good it is or isn’t.

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#10 posted 722 days ago

First off, the Jet 1642EVS is a SWEET lathe. My dad has one and I borrow it all the time. I’ve had my eye out for one of these on CL for a while now and haven’t found one yet.

Secondly, these were on sale back in January for $1899 everywhere. (15% Jet discount promotion) The current price is $2299 and I’m hoping they will drop the price again soon, perhap near the upcoming holidays.

The 2hp unit is 220V and will likely be a stronger motor. This is a good option if you have 220v available. The 110V will max out your amperage for the typical household circuit and would be the only thing you have running on it.
I’ve run some columns at maximum capacity on the 110v unit and I could stall the motor if my cut was too heavy. I suspect this would be minimized with the 2hp unit. That said, 99% of what most people make on a lathe will NOT need the maximum capacity of this one.

Thirdly, for me, the EVS feature makes this lathe a cut above the rest. When you have a large piece, the ability to vary the speed in small increments means you can find the highest stable “sweet spot” speed for the cut at any given moment. Having to switch belts and pulleys all the time would’ve driven me nuts and I would not have acheived as nice a result.

Rikon makes a lathe that, except for the color and name plates, resembles the Jet in nearly every way. I have no idea if it is made by the same manufacturer or not. That lathe can be had new at the price range you are looking at, but, I cannot attest to its longevity or other features.

Lastly, If your Woodcraft were in my neighborhood, I’d be buying that lathe. (Maybe at an even more reduced price than thier first offer, considering the promo price minus the usage on the unit)

Good luck.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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justinwdemoss

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#11 posted 716 days ago

I really appreciate all of your input. Unfortunately, I walked into the local woodworking shop today, feel 90% sure I was going to buy in the next few days, only to see a SOLD sign on the lathe. That’s what I get for waiting too long. I am sure someone got a great deal.

-- Justin in Loveland, OH

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#12 posted 716 days ago

Justin, that’s a let down I’m sure.

Take this lesson away from it though (I think I said this earlier), any time something you’ve researched and wanted pops up and it seems like a good deal, BUY IT.

Luckily for you, some of the guys on here listed other places where you could get it for a similar price.

In the past, I’ve had deals slip away from me because I wanted to do more research knowing dang well I knew how much it should cost, the benefits, the cons, etc. and returned to purchase only to find it had been sold. Never again.

If it’s close enough to a great price and it’s right there right now, I buy it. I’d much rather deal with the remorse of paying about the same price as the blowout price I may get it for online rather than that of not getting the deal when I had a chance.

This is exactly why I always have my smartphone with me. I can quickly check prices and immediately make a purchase if it’s a deal.

Be careful though, as buying deals can be addictive. I have several duplicates of expensive camera equipment and power tools because I bought things that were at crazy low prices. Do I regret it? Nope. I can always sell later for a little more to cover my addiction.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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justinwdemoss

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#13 posted 709 days ago

HUGE! Update…..........

Well, my birthday was yesterday and my wife took me out to lathe shop. She wanted to see what these tools that I rave about were really like. I could feel the ice starting to melt. This was my big chance to convince her that I needed a full size lathe and get the green light to buy one the next time I saw a deal. (I may have learned my lesson on waiting around and pondering the purchase.)

We eventually ended up back at the locally owned woodworking store (Hardwood Lumber and More in Milford, OH). She convinced me that I could pick up my planer knives that had been sharpened and show her their floor model. I told her that they had sold the demo lathe and that they probably wouldn’t have another on hand. She won out and we went. I walked in the store to find the demo lathe (the one with the sold sign on it the last time I was there) loaded on a flatbed cart and ready to go with a balloon and a birthday card with my name on it. The whole staff came out to take pictures and help us load it.

I have the greatest wife in the world! She had purchased the lathe shortly after I came home raving about it. She heard me talking about your posts as to how great a deal it was and called up Hardwood Lumber and More right away. The SOLD sign that I had seen over a week ago was part of a great birthday surprise. Now the problem is that I don’t want to leave the shop. Its a great lathe, a great price, and the best birthday present I have ever received. Now there’s a happy ending for you!

-- Justin in Loveland, OH

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Doss

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#14 posted 709 days ago

Justin, that is awesome!

You have got to love how that surprise unfolded. It’s been over a week and I’m sure you sat around thinking about what you missed out on. Well, there’s some relief and many hours of making ribbons in your future now.

Congratulations.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#15 posted 709 days ago

That is an awesome ending! Congratulations on your new lathe… you are one lucky lucky man.

The big question now is, what’s the first thing you’re going to make for your wife with it? ;-)

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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