I am about to pull the trigger on a new table saw—done a ton of research, narrowed it down to either the Grizzly G0690 or the G1023R. I tried to weigh all the pros and cons of both, and am now finally just about 99% decided on a G1023R.
I would like to hear from all you G1023R owners out there. This is a relatively new saw, so many of the discussions I found online were from folks who hadn’t had the saw all that long when they made their posts. Now that you have had your G1023R for a while, are you still happy with it? Any regrets? Anything you wish could have been improved or different? Is it still operating smoothly for you (I’m thinking specifically of the trunnion raising/lowering system here—seems like it could be prone to jamming with dust, chips, etc). Have you made any improvements or modifications to it? Happy with the stock fence? Anything that particularly annoys you about the saw? Anything you particularly enjoy about it?
Javaboy: My Griz 1023SL is 3 years old now. It is the older version of the latest 1023RL and pretty much the same saw minus the riving knife and some small changes. It is performing very well, and I would not hesitate to buy another Grizzly table saw. No jamming etc with the trunions, just keep the adjusting screw mechanisms clean and lubricated as with any cabinet saw. As to the stock fence…no clue. I never even took the Shop Fox fence out of the box, as I installed my Incra TSIII from my previous saw. If you are upgrading from a contractors saw, you will grin with delight the first time you use the Griz. After 3 years, mine still passes the nickle test. The only problem that I had was the mag power switch is mounted on the left side and my old saw’s power switch was on the right. I Think the stock dust collection chute could be at a steeper angle with fins to direct the sawdust to the 4” opening. If that was really a big deal, I would have changed it by now. IMHO you will not go wrong with this saw.
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Hi Karl – I have a Shop Fox W1677, which is the same as the former G1023SL. I realize that you very specifically asked for input on the new G1023R, but fence that came with the W1677 and G1023S is the same as what’s on the G1023R, so my comments will be restricted to the fence.
The Shop Fox Classic fence is a decent copy of the commercial Biesemeyer fence. It’s functionally about the same…same size tubing, very similar design, similar robustness, etc….it’s not one of the smaller lighter duty versions available (T2, Jet Proshop, etc). The most significant difference between the Biese and the SF Classic is with the face material….the Griz has plastic faces, that I believe are HDPE or UHMW vs the laminated birch ply faces of the Biese. I also noted that the handle is a bit rougher on the SF and that the standard length rails are a bit shorter than the Biese, giving a 26” rip vs 30” rip. Since the G1023R is left tilt, you can easily slide the rails about one bolt hole to right, effectively taking capacity from the left side and adding it to the right for a rip capacity of ~ 34” to 36”....slide only the front tube, and leave the angle bracket in place….there’s no drilling involved if you stick with the distance between the stock holes, and only reinstall 4 of the 5 bolts. You’ll need to relocate or replace the tape measure, and you’ll probably want to fill the space between the front and back rails with a table extension or router table. Given my druthers, I’d take the Biesemeyer over the SF Classic, but it’s a fairly minor and subjective thing.
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Woodbum—Yes, I am upgrading from a contractor’s saw (Grizzly G1022). That is something I have wanted to do for a long time, and I can’t wait. While I have to admit the contractor has been decent (especially after I upgraded it with a PowerTwist anti-vibration belt and Incra TSII fence), I can’t wait to have a “real” cabinet saw. I will miss the Incra fence, but it takes up a lot of space in my small shop, so hopefully moving to a Bies type fence won’t be too much of a shock (I know it’s going to be WAY better than the stock fence that originally came with the contractor saw!). Thanks very much for your input.
Knotscott—Thanks for the detailed commentary on the SF fence. Thanks too for the tip about increasing the rip capacity—not sure I will do that, as I am looking to gain a bit more floor space in my shop, but if it looks like it can be done without sacrificing too much space, I may go for it.
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