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Forum topic by rufus2 posted 07-23-2012 07:23 PM 1139 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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rufus2

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07-23-2012 07:23 PM

The dining set I’m refinishing is supposedly oak (was made in Taiwan). If I first didn’t graduate the grits and went from 150 to 320 would that make the gel stain look blotchy? Did refinish again with 120, 150, then 220. Wondering if I should put Zinnser universal sanding coat first or graduating grits would correct the problem.

Thanks, Ruth

-- Ruth, Missouri


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EPJartisan

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#1 posted 07-26-2012 02:21 PM

HI Ruth, It is difficult to tell without a picture for wood type reference. Most oak doesn’t blotch when stained, but every board is unique. Graduating grits is all about removing scratches the last grit left behind. If you have actual blotching, it’s most likely about the wood grain and makes me wonder if it might not be Oak. post some pictures. :)

-- " 'Truth' is like a beautiful flower, unique to each plant and to the season it blossoms ... 'Fact' is the root and leaf, allowing the plant grow and bloom again."

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Lee Barker

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#2 posted 07-26-2012 02:48 PM

I wonder if it’s veneer and the blotches are near-sandthroughs.

Yet another request for a picture. : )

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#3 posted 07-26-2012 03:58 PM

Yep, sounds like it could be any one of several issues that could best be resolved with a picture:

1. Sanded through veneer – No fix
2. Didn’t sand the finish off completely – Fix by completely removing old finish then applying new
3. Not oak or this wood is a unique piece of oak – Fix by experimenting, sanding sealer, or any means necessary
4. Veneer is really thin – Not much you can do. This is essentially the same as #1

There may be other problems/solutions, but a pic would help in this case.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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rufus2

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#4 posted 07-27-2012 06:13 PM

Thank you all for your replies. Took pictures but do not know how to post them. I tried sliding them to this space and it didn’t work.

Anyway, I took the stain off again and started over. Sanded 120, 150 and 220. Applied Zinsser Universal Sanding Sealer (1 coat), sanded with 400 grit, then stained again with General Finishes “Java”. It turned out like I wanted it to. It has the grain in it and will apply the second coat today. If you would like to see the before and after, please advise on how to attach the pictures and will do so.

Thanks again for your time and efforts in responding to my SOS I really appreciated it.

Ruth

-- Ruth, Missouri

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#5 posted 07-27-2012 06:45 PM

Glad to hear you got it resolved. I don’t know if you had to use such aggressive sandpaper to remove the finish, but if it all looks fine, it doesn’t matter. I’m just trying to save you a step or two.

Right above the reply box (below “Have your say…” and ”+View the posting rules”), there is a button that says “img”.

Click it.
Click “Choose File”.
Choose your image.
Click “Insert this image”

Done.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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rufus2

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#6 posted 07-27-2012 07:52 PM

The chairs with the seat in them are before stripping. The seatless ones are the ones I refinished twice and used Zinsser Universal Sanding Sealer before restaining them. I’m going to give the refinished chair a second coat of stain before I put the topcoat of General Finishes High Performance on it. Doss, please let me know if you can see the pictures. Confused that the http came up instead of the pictures. Your instructions worked too I’m sure, but I didn’t preview it when I discovered that was the trick, I think! LOL

Thanks, Ruth

-- Ruth, Missouri

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Doss

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#7 posted 07-27-2012 08:05 PM

Looks good to me! :thumbsup: Some of them may be too big though (images 2-5 are just parts of a chair). Image 1 is the whole chair.

Also, love the thin frames on those.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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