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731 days ago

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Y’know, I have no problem with the political or religious discussions here, as long as the writers are willing to get as they give. Let the readers decide when a member goes off the rails, or reacts to an opinion with disorganized thoughts or irrational responses, it’s fun to watch the meltdowns!

BUT!!! I really do have an issue with people who try to use the Lumberjocks site for their own financial gain, through soliciting donations for their own misfortunes in life. This should not happen. I’ve not made any suggestions for improvement to the Lumberjocks site, but anyone who tries to raise money here by promoting stories of down-on-their-luck personal gloom and doom should be strongly discouraged from doing so. This type of activity is so easily abused, so un-accountable, that it should not be allowed here. I’ve yet to see any words of gratitude posted here from the 5 or 6 recipients who have benefitted from LJ generosity over the years. When will we ever hear a story about how chipping in has made a difference in a fellow Lumberjock’s life? Hmmm… Your opinion, please.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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Don W

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#1 posted 731 days ago

I agree.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#2 posted 731 days ago

There is help for those hitting a low spot in life but not here. The pleas beome like the noon whistle, “There it is again.”
I get enough “begging” phone calls without having to read hard luck stories on Web sites.

-- Jerry

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Frankie Talarico Jr.

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#3 posted 731 days ago

Agreed, There are plenty of interstate on ramps to go beg. Matter a fact we all have problems, we all have troubles, and we all need help sometimes. But on a woodworking showcase, there is no place for it.

wait while I’m at it, My shop has been reduced to a tightly packed storage unit for the next year or so…. Any donations towards a rental garage until then will be greatly used…... And if you need help call someone else…

You do know that last part is a joke. If I need money I’ll work for it, even if it tarnishes my pride temporarily. Thats the problem, people think that are worth more than the next guy when we all just need to do what it takes…..Dont feed off of others generosity

Great post

-- Live by what you believe, not what they want you to believe.

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#4 posted 731 days ago

Kindness, or lack of, will get you your just rewards. It is a two way street. You give, you get…

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.

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#5 posted 731 days ago

In these tough times… One could very easily get caught behind the eight ball…

I think it depends on the circumstance…

Hey, I need money all of the time… but I don’t ask for more… But, right now, I do not consider myself behind the eight ball.

Each Case is different… Cannot be a Black & White… Yes / No issue…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#6 posted 731 days ago

One could very easily get caught behind the eight ball ….. consider myself behind the eight ball

Joe (or someone else) – could you perhaps translate this “eight ball” thing for us foreigners? :-)

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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DKV

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#7 posted 731 days ago

Joe, if you ever get behind the eight ball let me know. Just send me your address and I will help.

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.

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poopiekat

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#8 posted 731 days ago

Well, yes, sometimes we DO get behind the eight-ball. As are some of us here in Lumberjocks. Some of us would no sooner ask for a handout from fellow members than others might. We may never know of the plight of some LJs who will never divulge their own desperate straits for the purpose of peeling a buck or two from fellow members.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#9 posted 731 days ago

Becareful with the hand outs … read this on another post.
...

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#10 posted 731 days ago

I would happily take a word of encouragement, a piece of advice or straight talking from anyone on LJ’s before asking for a penny.
There but by the grace of God and angels go I.

I’m guessing (as a foreigner) that being behind the 8 ball is similar to being snookered. Or up the creek without a paddle?

-- Gossamer shavings just floating around the back yard….-Bandit

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#11 posted 731 days ago

Johnnyblot:

Yes! In dire straits… Really Bad OFF… LOL

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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poopiekat

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#12 posted 731 days ago

Arlin Eastman is a sincere woodworking enthusiast, and Veteran, and does not deserve to be treated so poorly.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#13 posted 731 days ago

Thank you for bringing up this subject. I agree that you can give money to whoever you want. But when it is given on false pretenses it is wrong. I can only hope that the recipients paid back every penny, especially if they have a business and better woodworking tools than we have.

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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poopiekat

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#14 posted 731 days ago

Thanks, RiverWood and everyone else for all the great replies!
The issue, upon reflecting, is one of accountability. The closer we pay attention, the more we realize that the people receiving charity in one thread, are gloating about their two dozen routers, gifted lumber from fellow ‘Jocks, or upscale plane purchases in another thread… Vigilance is a small price to pay, to prevent getting hosed! All I got to say on this…for now.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#15 posted 730 days ago

Bottom line, if you need money, sell your tools, don’t take mine

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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