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Tommy Evans

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767 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw question

Hi all,
Tommy here. I’ve been lurking and learning here for a couple of months. This is my first post.

I’m currently using a highly added-to Craftsman 100, 3/4 hp. But it is a pain to keep the trunnions adjusted correctly. I have the little PALS setup, but it’s just not doing the job. It will need readjusting at least every 8 to 10 hours of run time, which might be 3 to 4 weeks (until I retire at the end of Sept. !)

I’ve found a Rockwell Unisaw, model# unknown but serial number was given to me as 1B8811. I can’t find a listing for that type digit on http://www.owwm.org/ It has the Rockwell “peace sign” emblem.

Anyway, the guy wants $750 which seems kinda high. But it is 3 hp single phase 220v. I haven’t dickered with him yet. And can’t find a listing of what years this saw used the Jet Lock style fence. The picture shows a long fence rail plus rail extensions taped to them ? No guards or motor cover.

Can ya’ll help me with a price guidance. I plan on taking a dial indicator and checking the arbor. Any other weaknesses that should be checked out?

It’s also a right-tilt, which I’m (maybe needlessly?) worried about.

Thanks for the help.
Tommy


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Milo

851 posts in 1951 days


#1 posted 767 days ago

Too much. I bought (almost, mines a little older) the same exact saw for $400, got a Beismeyer(sp?) fence, the phase converter, and three out tables to go with it.

Arbor can be an issue. It costs around $100 bucks to send it to The Saw Center to get it replaced. Also think about new belts in an old machine. You may need to rewire a few things, not a big deal. Alignments a non-issue, you can fix that yourself.

Keep looking around. You may have to travel a bit, I did, but you’ll save money in the end. Only spend between $400 to $500 on an old Uni.

Hope that helps.

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 767 days ago

That serial number makes it a 1976 model according to the Delta serial number list over at vintagemachinery.org

Right or left tilt is really an individual preference..

I think $750 is a reasonable asking price if it’s in good condition.. not a steal, but not too bad. I’m sure you can get him to go down a bit.. mention the lack of a blade guard and anything else you can think of :)

Cheers,
Brad

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waho6o9

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#3 posted 767 days ago

http://springfield.craigslist.org/tls/3135970589.html

How about a Grizzly with a router table?

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a1Jim

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#4 posted 767 days ago

$750 is about twice what I think it should sell for.

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Loren

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#5 posted 767 days ago

Right tilt is no biggie. You’ll get used to it. There’s a similar saw in
my neighborhood for $425 w/ unifence. It will probably sell
quick for that. Prices vary regionally quite a lot.

If you are ready for a cabinet saw get one. Most folks these
days don’t care for the old style fence like the one you’re
looking at has.

I’d say put your foot down at $500 due to the lack of
guard, motor cover and modern fence. Make the offer,
give the seller your number and go home.

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knotscott

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#6 posted 767 days ago

I like the $500 point, but might consider up $650 if it runs really well. I’d part out the jet lock fence to offset costs, and would replace with a Vega, Biese, HTC, Shop Fox Classic, Delta T2, etc….

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Tommy Evans

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#7 posted 767 days ago

O.K. thanks for the answers. I’ll be at work today, so can’t move on this till later. If it’s gone I’ll keep looking.

Brad, Is this what makes you say it’s a 1976.. [1976 HR-3059 – IQ-9999] and my number is IB 8811 not 1B 8811.

That Grizzly deal looks good, but is way too far away.

Is it feasible (not a LOT of work) to take off the top, and take out the motor to lighten the weight to unload it from a pickup?

With the top off I’ll be able to clean up and inspect everything under the saw, too. Hmmm, I’ll probably to that.

I’ll need to get a mobile base at the same time. There is a Grainger’s some what local to here. I don’t know if HD, Lowes or Menards stocks those things.

I’l offer the seller $500 and see if I can see it this weekend. It’s at his place of work and he might not have access til Monday.

Thanks, Tommy

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Loren

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#8 posted 767 days ago

Take a 72” x 36” piece of plywood, lean one end on the
tailgate and tip the saw onto it. Then 2 guys can lift and
slide the board into the truck with the saw on it. Unloading
is even easier. No removal of motors needed but I
remove the fence, handwheels and wings when moving saws
this way.

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MedicKen

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#9 posted 766 days ago

I would say that your machine pictured would fall in the mid to late 70’s. Are you positive the serial number is not IB? As opposed to 1B? You might also look to see if the tag says Canada on it as well. If a canadian made unisaw the serial numbers on OWWM do not apply.

the saw seems to be in decent shape. Unless the PO has recently replaced the belts, arbor and motor bearings those are all areas for negotiating a lower price. I will take both time a little cash to get it back in service. I would replace the bearings being the saw is pushing 40 years old. Its cheap insurance.

The price is going to vary depending upon a lot of variables. What a saw will sell for in one part of the country will not sell for in another. In my area, I would expect it to go for about $500. YMMV.

If this is a new listing on CL, sit on it if you are not willing to pay the asking price or the PO does not accept a lower offer. He will at some point lower his price if no one pays the high price. I have seen saws like start at 1K and end up a $250 after they realize it is over priced. Also remember, cash talks. If you are willing to pay $500, take cash and wave it under his nose, they will probably accept it.

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Wdwerker

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#10 posted 766 days ago

Top is easy to remove, just 4 bolts. I bought my similar vintage Unisaw new and that fence is trash.replaced it with a Vega over 20 years ago. I recently had to call Vega with a question when I added a Wixley digital kit and the owner called me back quickly and was most helpful. I use my Unisaws daily in my custom cabinet shop.

-- Fine Custom Woodwork since 1978

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