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Forum topic by Marlys posted 07-19-2012 05:52 PM 971 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-19-2012 05:52 PM

Topic tags/keywords: square rail stile door large

Making some doors for a friend and I’m a little concerned with the size. The doors are 67” tall and 15” wide. They are typical rail and stile…a rail at the top and bottom and stiles on either side. My friend does not want any additional rails in the middle of the door and I’m worried that it will “bow” in middle. I have never glued in a panel before and always assumed they should “float” due to expansion.

I’ve done a dry fit and have to clamp in middle to achieve desired look, fit, and square.

These doors will be painted to match existing doors in the room. Are there any tricks other than adding a middle rail or bracing on the back to “pull” the sides into square?

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#1 posted 07-19-2012 06:36 PM

Are you using solid wood or plywood for the panel? Assuming it’s plywood, I’d glue ‘em.

-- John, BC, Canada

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#2 posted 07-19-2012 06:45 PM

I’ve had customers ask for doors like that and I offer them the “tail light guarantee”. I’ll build and install it if you insist, but the guarantee expires when my tail lights are out of sight.

In most cases two doors are far better. If it really has to be a single door, you definitely need a center rail.

-- Adversity doesn't build reveals it.

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#3 posted 07-19-2012 06:58 PM

I agree with sawkerf. You best shot would be to hinge it full length or put lots of individual hinges and then have at least three latches on it. My experience tells me to try to make them look as good as you can closed tell the customer they will warp or bow and go away knowing you are being honest.

-- Jim, Missouri

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#4 posted 07-19-2012 07:00 PM

If the panel is plywood, it doesn’t need to float as it’s stable already. You could glue it in.
You really need to check there’s no racking in the door before and during glue up. At this point I’d cramp it all together, loosen the cramps and put winding sticks top and bottom of the door and check for racking.
Make sure the assembly table and cramps are completely flat before gluing.
You might have difficulty with those F cramps, pipe/parallel/sash cramps would be better.

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