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thedude50

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07-19-2012 06:15 AM

I for the first time ever lost a tire on my jet 14 junch bandsaw i need tire advise brand type why this over that etc etc . Please help with good advise

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#1 posted 07-19-2012 06:43 AM

That Jet BS is just a Taiwanese Delta clone, so a standard 1 inch wide tire will work just fine. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a ‘branded’ tire other than perhaps Carter and their blue ones.. the rest are pretty generic.. orange urethane or black rubber, take your pick. I grabbed a pair of urethane ones from Hartville about a year ago and they work just fine. YMMV.

Cheers,
Brad

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#2 posted 07-19-2012 07:10 AM

the jet is not any thing like the delta but i dont want to argue if you owned jet tools or powermatic tools you would know why walter mier is a top notched tool company and why some things made in better Taiwanese factory s are made to their specifications and made with better motors and better parts. that said i believe the 14 inch tires are 7/8ths of an inch i want more on the tires them selves

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#3 posted 07-19-2012 09:03 AM

Huh? The Jet is indeed an Asian built clone of the venerable Delta 14” cast saw built for the last 70+ years. The saw is the most copied design because it worked for light duty sawing and was cheap and easy to copy since it was the lightest of all the 14” cast saws (PM 141, Walker-Turner etc) and it was the only one to have a split casting allowing a riser block. In general the Jet is a very close copy of the old Delta aside from some lightning of the casting and changes over the years in guides etc.

In any event, the cheapest/best approach is to get some urethane tires from http://www.sgtool.com/ most Rockers carry them also and may be cheaper if you happen to have a coupon. One other option would be to get them from Iturra Designs in Jacksonville FL, you have to call BUT have Lou include a catalog, it is a wealth of bandsaw info with emphasis on the Delta 14” and its clones. He has tons of useful upgrades (if you don’t want to move to a bigger saw) and makes a replacement tracking arm which is beefier (all these saws achilles heel). Urethane tends to last longer than rubber and is less likely to take a set, I use them on any light duty saw with crowned wheels and they just can’t be beat. You can certainly get the Carter versions but they are near twice as much for blue instead of orange.

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#4 posted 07-19-2012 11:49 AM

Blow a tire? Get a Michelin!! tee hee…..Really, that urethane one sounds like the thing to buy. We have a giant band saw at the high school where I help out the shop teacher with machine problems and it has a 12’ x 1 1/4 blade on it and I think I’ll need to get a tire for it. I will also look at that site for it-looks like they only go to 19” diameter,but they do have one that fits a 14” Grizzly- might fit the Jet, Can you just order one from Jet?...Jim

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#5 posted 07-19-2012 12:56 PM

I bought a Ridgid bandsaw that I found on Craig’s List last year. It was almost unused, but the tires were rotten and falling off. My saw is another clone just like the delta, grizzly and several others. So, I ordered two urethane tires from Grizzly and they fit just perfect and they are still going strong. If I need another set, I won't hesitate to order another set from Grizzly. Here’s the part #.

T23070 Urethane Tire for 14” Bandsaws – $17.95 + shipping

When I need new tires for my Rikon, I’ll also order the Grizzly urethane tires.

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#6 posted 07-19-2012 02:12 PM

I order my urethane tires at bandsawparts.com. They are affordable and good quality.

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#7 posted 07-19-2012 03:04 PM

This is what you want…

Get Urethane tires...

You will not have to worry about them ever again!

They are GREAT!

Looks like the Grizzly tires are the ones to get… Better than Rockler!

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#8 posted 07-19-2012 08:16 PM

@Jim Sulpher Grove can make any length tire and as an aside they are the ones that make the sets Rockler sales. If the blade on the school saw is only 144” it is probably a 16-18” saw, if it is Asian it probably has a crowned wheel and the urethane tires would work. If it is an American or European (the former is much more likely in a school) it will have a flat tire and needs a thicker rubber tire that then needs to be crowned, a urethane tire generally will not work UNLESS you build up a crown on the tire, something that can be done but I don’t suggest. If you need a thick rubber tire get in touch with Bobby at woodworkerstoolworks.com . Ther are plenty of how too videos on you tube regarding how to crown the tire.

There have been reports of premature stretching with Grizzly tires but it seems to be on the tires that came originally but then people tend to replace them with a non-Grizzly tire so I don’t know if it is only the ones that sit stretched in the hot shipping containers or not.

RE: Heisbert before anyone orders from the places he shills for you might want to consider his posts, it is clear he and several other accounts are spamming this site for a group of bandsaw retail sites which feed each other.

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#9 posted 07-20-2012 12:01 AM

i have settled on the carter urethane they cost more but the quality is the best from my research i was going to put rubber back on but the blue urethane is the way to go

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#10 posted 07-20-2012 12:22 AM

I put the orange ones on a few years ago… still all OK…

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#11 posted 07-20-2012 02:08 AM

Dude, When my 17” Grizz threw a tire (on the weekend,in the middle of a project), Patron suggested gluing it back on with “Automotive Goop” brand contact adhesive. Still working fine. I ordered and received new tires but will wait til this ‘fix’ fails before installing them (if I can figure out how to ‘unglue’ them!).

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AHuxley

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#12 posted 07-20-2012 04:04 AM

@thedude Do you mind sharing your research, inquiring mins would like to know. Only one of my bandsaws can use a uretahane tire but any objective quality difference would be appreciated.

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#13 posted 07-20-2012 05:25 AM

I did notice that the Carter tires, while being way more expensive than pretty much everyone else, are also thinner.. their only 14 inch offering is 3/32” thick.. The orange ones from places like Hartville tool are 1/8” thick. Not sure if it makes much of a difference, but it seems to me that thicker would be better.

And.. the Carter tire is only 7/8” wide, which is too narrow for my Delta and most other clones, including the Jet JWBS-14 which requires a 1 inch wide tire. I have seen several reviews that have noted a problem with them being too narrow and allowing the tire to shift on the wheel because of this. One guy contacted Carter about the problem and they suggested he glue them on to fix it; and offered to sell the glue to him for another $20 + shipping!!

Just some observations..

Cheers,
Brad

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thedude50

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#14 posted 07-23-2012 06:55 AM

my jet tires are 15/16ths I am working with carter on this problem i will let you all know what they say

I ran to the auto parts store and got the weather strip adhesive and it worked well then right on cue the bottom tire blew today now that was a shocker they both died with in days of each other I glued it back ON AS THE NEW TIRES AREN’T HERE YET

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#15 posted 07-24-2012 12:33 AM

Mine did exactly the same thing: glued the top one, threw the bottom one! Glued bottom one and good since.

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