overall planing and design of cabinet saws what's new ???????

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Forum topic by SCOTSMAN posted 07-18-2012 07:34 PM 1152 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-18-2012 07:34 PM

I cannot help thinking that the current design of shop saws is much of a muchness.What I mean by that is they remind me of hatchback cars back here in the UK they all look more or less the same perhaps like the saw designs to cut down on manufacturing costs.
I would love to see designers of these saws have their hands untied and stop copying each others ideas designs etc.The newer designs in Europe nearly all or perhaps completely all now have biult in sliding tables which are now a must in European design.
Why oh why is some of these modern ideas picked up on and incorporated into American saw design.
I absolutely wonder why the first thing Americans seems to do once they make their purchase is to make a sliding wooden sled top for cutting any non rip custs.???? Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#1 posted 07-18-2012 09:32 PM

At work we have a sliding tablesaw for crosscuts and its lovely, HOWEVER…I still find myself using a crosscut sled on the unisaw. The reason for this being that I cant safely use the slider for small parts, I cant use it with a dado set and I cant put a thin kerf blade in it.
It actualy depends what your doing. If Im doing sheet goods a slider takes the cake but for everything else I would prefer a cabinet saw with various sleds.

-- {Current North Bennet street school student}

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#2 posted 07-19-2012 12:57 AM

I think to a great extent it boils down to cost. In North America the market seems to demand a super low price whereas in Europe it seems people are more willing to pay for quality. Look at how long it took for riving knives to get on NA saws. Might be a bit of “not invented here” too (??)

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#3 posted 07-19-2012 01:48 AM

Three years ago, I bought a Jet “Super Saw” on a clearance. It has a sliding table to the left of the blade. It’s taken me a while to get used to it, but it’s a really neat feature. I still whip out my sled most of the time because that’s quicker than setting up the slider for cross cutting.

-- Adversity doesn't build reveals it.

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#4 posted 07-19-2012 02:08 PM

Gosh folks, Anybody still use a miter gauge? I have 2 one by Jessem & one by Incra. They do all I need to do and with extreme accuracy. I would prefer my table saw to be a plane-jane saw with a raving knife and super stable “T”-square fence. No SawStop technology or any new-fangled great ideas that I don’t want.

Bill “Pop” Golden

-- One who works with his hands is a laborer, his hands & head A craftsman, his hands, head & heart a artist

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#5 posted 07-19-2012 02:39 PM

My Jet came with a miter gauge that attaches to the sliding table on the left side of the blade. It’s easy to put on and very accurate. My continued use of a sled is more habit than anything else.

I also have an Incra 3000 miter gauge that I had before buying the Jet. It doesn’t get much use anymore, but I still find an occasional need for it.

-- Adversity doesn't build reveals it.

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#6 posted 07-19-2012 02:39 PM

Wood workers in North America (yanks) are unusually attached to the machinery they use as much as to the trade they ply. Most of us remember when we would put our head down on our pillows and dream about the day we would own our own 10” unisaw. We spend decades developing our own jigs and methods to make our saw do almost anything that can be done with wood. We take great pleasure in sharing our secrets with other wood workers and brag about our machines like they were old friends. In my mind, it’s not just about proficiency, it’s more of a love affair. After all, for years we sacraficed time with our wives, warm dinners and cuddling on the sofa, for hours of pleasure and frustration figuring out how to make a jig for finger lap joints on our table saw. There may be more proficient saw designs, and some day I may even purchase one. But I’m not ready to put my cabinet saw out to pasture just yet. There still are a few tricks I need to perfect. It’s not lack of creativity that keeps us looking for the traditional design of a table saw. It’s the romance of the old.

-- James, Michigan

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#7 posted 07-19-2012 04:27 PM

I would be interested in hearing if others agree with Finisher. My stationary equipment is mostly North American made simply because it was the best available at the time. I have a Unisaw that’s 13 years old now but if I were to buy today I would not even look at Delta given the number of times that company has been bought and sold. I think a guy should be loyal to quality and innovation. I want the best tool I can get that suits my needs at a price I can accept. After all, it’s just a tool, it’s not my partner.

-- Dwight - "Free legal advice available - contact Dewey, Cheetam & Howe""

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