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Forum topic by LearningAsIGo posted 07-17-2012 05:27 PM 1553 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-17-2012 05:27 PM

I would really like an arbor with an outdoor swing attached similar to this. I was thinking of using cedar since that seems to be a good outdoor wood. It doesn’t have to be clear and knot free since I will most likely paint, but painting rules out pressure treated lumber.

I found this and the prices are great. I don’t know if that is a good or bad thing. What are the differences between different types of cedar? Is eastern red cedar an acceptable wood to use outdoors. Will it hold screws well and be able to support the hardware necessary to safely hang a swing?


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#1 posted 07-17-2012 05:34 PM

I can’t really help you on the different types of cedar, but why do you say painting rules out pressure treated lumber? I have painted pressure treated wood before without any problems. I would probably use it in your case too, rather than cover up nicer wood with paint.

-- Rex

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#2 posted 07-17-2012 08:01 PM

I have tried to research whether or not you can paint PT wood and a majority of what I’ve read has said that you can’t. That the wood is too wet for the paint to properly adhere. Or you need to wait 3-6 months for it to dry and while waiting it will warp and twist while it’s drying. I’ve read that you can paint Kiln Dried Pressure Treated wood but not sure where you buy that.

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#3 posted 07-17-2012 08:49 PM

Eastern Red Cedar (ERC) is a GREAT outdoor wood. The heartwood is very rot resistant; however the white sapwood will rot away if unprotected.

It is a soft wood (softer than pine), so through bolts are a better choice for critical fasteners (such as eyebolts to hang swings from, etc).

It is naturally insect resistant, and it dries very quickly. I would not be afraid to use it at all, but I would probably choose an oil based paint, instead of a latex.

-- Scott, North Carolina, www.quartersawnoak.com

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#4 posted 07-18-2012 02:08 AM

I have painted a lot of treated yellow pine with quality latex paint and it has held up as well as untreated (or better). One piece even gets hosed down daily by the sprinkler system! Used Kelly Moore paint if that matters.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#5 posted 07-19-2012 01:49 PM

gfadvm, did you wait a few months before painting the treated wood?

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#6 posted 07-19-2012 07:01 PM

No, I painted it as soon as it was put together. (flypen for my doves which has been out in the weather for 17 years now-can’t repaint easily because it is covered with 1/2” mesh aviary wire)

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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