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Forum topic by Matt Przybylski posted 07-11-2012 07:54 PM 1527 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Matt Przybylski

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07-11-2012 07:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: dmt chisels plane irons sharpening diamond

Hello everyone,
I’m sure this topic has been beaten to death and I apologize for that but I wanted to get a feeler out there for two sharpening systems I’m considering. I’ll be sharpening plane irons and chisels mostly and want these sharpening “kits” to last a long time. That being said, I’ve narrowed it down to DMT DuoSharp for the lower grits and Norton waterstones for the higher grits. Here are the two sets I’m considering:

1) http://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Ultimate-Woodworking-Sharpening-Kit-P86C18.aspx

2) http://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/DMT-10-DuoSharp-Diamond-Kit-P435C24.aspx with the 4000/8000 stone http://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Norton-Combination-Water-Stones-P28C4.aspx

Can you please provide your input on what you’d get if money wasn’t an issue? I know the first set is more expensive but I’d like to get the right one right away and not worry about cost up front.

Also, for the waterstones, do you keep yours submerged in water when not in use?

Thanks everyone.

-- Matt, Illinois, http://www.reintroducing.com


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Loren

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#1 posted 07-11-2012 08:16 PM

If money wasn’t an issue I’d probably get a Tormek.

I’ve got by fine for years though with a Makita wet wheel
1000 grit grinder and an assortment of waterstones. I
have a couple of older coarse diamond stones and they haven’t
retained the aggressive cut they had when new. I think
the newer types might have longer life and they are
certainly cheaper than they used to be.

If you go with waterstones get a nagura slurry stone too.

Turn the stone on its side to sharpen narrow chisels because
it’s easy to nick the stone with them.

I don’t use honing guides though. I tried it for awhile
but then a guy showed me how to really use waterstones
with “hand jigging” and I used this method afterwards.

I flatten my stones (remove nicks actually because my
technique doesn’t dish the stones) with open sanding
screens used for sanding floors. The screens wear out
fast when sanding floors but they work great afterwards
for flattening waterstones. Lay the screen on a flat
surface of coarse.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Don W

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#2 posted 07-11-2012 10:03 PM

I had water stones at one time and hated them. I have the Duosharp stones now and will never be without them. I’d recommend the DMT set.

I’ve got the single sided stones but in the same grits. You won’t be sorry.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Bill White

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#3 posted 07-11-2012 10:38 PM

+1 on the Makita.
I use it professionally. Have had it for abt. 20 years. My knives, chisels, plane irons, etc. are well recieved. Never had a call-back (yet). Don’t wanna get too cocky.
Hey! That’s just my take. Everyone to their opinion, but I make money with my system.
I do touch up with diamond paddles and a diamond steel when the blades are not trashed.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Don W

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#4 posted 07-11-2012 10:44 PM

Bill, I have the Makita but never likes it for plane irons. I’d like to see the big you use.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Matt Przybylski

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#5 posted 07-11-2012 11:25 PM

@Loren and Bill: I probably should have clarified “if money was no object between the two systems” because of their price difference. I’ve pretty much set my mind on using stones above a system like the Tormek. Appreciate the input, however.

@Don: Do you spritz water on the DMT stones during use? I’ve read that you should do that while using Diamond stones to lubricate the surface. Also, do you clean them with a toothbrush and a ‘household abrasive cleaner’ after use? If so, what cleaner do you use?

-- Matt, Illinois, http://www.reintroducing.com

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Arch_E

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#6 posted 07-13-2012 10:42 PM

of your two listed options I prefer the Nortons, and I’ve used both approaches! For me, water stones just do a better job of sharpening, though each system works. My experience with DMT has lead me to conclude there’ll be no more of them for me. Of course, I’ve long since moved on from the Nortons because there are many superior options—but that’s another slope.

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