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07-06-2012 10:33 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw tire problem

The tire on my 17” Grizz has just started creeping off the back of the upper wheel. It has done this with a 1” resaw blade and a 1/4” blade as well. Tire appears in good shape with no grooves or apparent defects and the blades track perfectly in the center of the wheels. Only the upper tire is affected. The tech guy at Grizz suggested contact cement and new tires if that didn’t work. Tires are original and 3 years old. Any thoughts? Don’t know if they are rubber or urethane (grey in color). I need to fix this as it’s pretty scary when it happens. Thanks.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm


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#1 posted 07-06-2012 10:40 PM

rubber trim sealant
in a toothpaste tube
at wal-mart
or auto store
put it on the wheel
and stretch the tire over it
without smearing it off

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#2 posted 07-06-2012 11:03 PM

According to Grizzly, your bandsaw should have the urethane tire on it. I know the recent ones do, yours being a few years old might be the difference. I know it is listed in the manual as to what tire material is on it.
A good silicone will work. If you don’t have urethane tires, I recommend the highly. I had a tire blow on my Jet bandsaw and replaced both wheels with the Urethane. I found a source that has what I believe to be the best and at a great price. www.sgtool.com
I sold my Jet and just three days ago bought a Grizzly 17 inch. Will uncrate this weekend and set it up. Can’t wait!

-- " 'woodworker'.....it's a good word, an honest word." - Sam Maloof

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#3 posted 07-06-2012 11:50 PM

If you’ve used the heck out of it, I’d replace the tires. I’m not a bandsaw expert, but, did you check to see if the wheels are co-planer? I don’t know if that would have anything to do with the tire walkin like that or not. ? Maybe your tension spring is shot, warn out… Oh, and what about the cool-blocks, or bearings, were they all ok with their spacing/clearence, etc.? Just a few things I’m thinkin of Andy.. Hope you get it fixed. That could be really dangerous. Be safe.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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#4 posted 07-07-2012 12:00 AM

any recent changes? The grizzly tech should be able to tell you type of tire re modle number? Alignments ok? Any clues before this happened? mine is 14 inch. grizzly. good luck

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#5 posted 07-07-2012 01:01 AM

you should have real vulcanized tires that are crowned after vulcanization, here is the link to davis and wells, give him a call http://www.davisandwells.com/contactus.shtml

-- no matter what size job big or small do a job right or don't do it at all.

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#6 posted 07-07-2012 01:12 AM

Patron- “rubber trim sealant”? Never saw this but I’ll look. Roger and Doc- It has been used quite a bit but not daily for hours at a time like a production/commercial shop. I’m a hobbyist but I do resaw a lot of big logs with it. It did it the first time with my new 1” resaw blade. The guy at TW recommended tracking the blade differently which seemed to work but it came off today the first time I used the 1/4” blade to saw some 5/8” walnut. I don’t mind replacing the tires if I need to but I’ve heard that is no fun. I’m most interested in not ruining my expensive resaw blade. As far as I can tell the saw is set up as near perfect as I can get it.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#7 posted 07-07-2012 01:16 AM

I have been seeing more and more accounts of the Grizzly tires loosening recently. If it is moving it has stretched. If it has stretched replace it, those tires should not need glue. Thin tires made to transmit a crown in the wheel are not designed to be glued on, not that you can’t BUT the tire is too big now for a proper tight fit. Just get a good set of urethane tires, Carters are fine but expensive, Sulpher Grove Tool is my vendor of choice for urethane tires once you have them on you will be fine for years.

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#8 posted 07-07-2012 03:08 AM

Well, that sounds creepy.

I think it is time to replace your stretched tires. In addition to actual use, temperature conditions of an unused shop might also affect the rubber. I’m in the less-experienced camp on BS maintenance & tuneup though. I’m much better at bad humor.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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#9 posted 07-07-2012 03:18 AM

here is what i got

AMAZING GOOP brand i guess
i had replaced mine with urethane
and they slipped
so i glued them on
still there

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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gfadvm

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#10 posted 07-07-2012 03:21 AM

The plan is to try David’s automotive “Goo” to get thru the weekend and order new tires on Mon. I think I’ll keep the high$ resaw blade off til new tires are installed! Rance-That heat in the shop thing occured to me even though the shop never gets above 83 but I would expect both tires to have stretched. The lower tire is still so tight I may have to cut it off?

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#11 posted 07-07-2012 04:37 AM

I’d leave the lower tire on until it hints of a problem. Keep the 2nd one around for a spare

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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#12 posted 07-07-2012 04:46 AM

If the tire is coming off, its stretched and should be replaced. If you want to glue it down, the manufacturers “glue” is nothing more than 3M 5200 sealant/adhesive and can be found at the borg or any hardware store.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#13 posted 07-07-2012 04:16 PM

the whells must be in co planer as well or it wont track right

-- no matter what size job big or small do a job right or don't do it at all.

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gfadvm

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#14 posted 07-08-2012 12:44 AM

UPDATE- I glued it on with Patron’s Goop. Put my oldest 1/4” blade on and cut all the parts for the second quilt/towel rack. So far so good. Not sure now whether to replace it.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#15 posted 07-09-2012 07:06 PM

I get good quality urethane tires from bandsawparts.com. Their tires are less expensive and surely last long for years.

-- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live"

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