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07-02-2012 03:02 AM

Topic tags/keywords: square speed square angles

We are redoing a bathroom and have chosen to use a floating floor that we got at HD. All was fine till da wife said, ”... and I want it layed on an angle.” Can you believe all the info from the manufacture does not offer any info on this. Anyway, while this is not wood working, they info provided by you clever LJ’s will certainly help us handicapped LJ.s on wood working future project. My question is how do I determine the angle to cut?

The room is 46” X 52” – small thing. the walls are close but not 45 degrees. I’m guessing that I will begin from the center of the room. I’ve laid my laser down and shot a beam from one corner to the opposite corner. I then laid down my speed square. The beam cuts across the square at 48 degrees. So so I cut at 48 or do I take 90 subtract 48 and cut 42? As you look at the photos, the angled cut will be made for the wall to the right in the photo.

I guess I should have mentioned before posting and people replying.. that the planks are 12” X 36” each and look like tile.

-- Harold


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#1 posted 07-02-2012 03:09 AM

I think you can cut them at 45 as you will be leaving a gap between the flooring and the wall that will be covered by baseboard. I would lay my flooring perpendicular to the diagonal line drawn corner to corner. Hope this helps.

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#2 posted 07-02-2012 03:16 AM

You think 45 even though the room isn’t square?

-- Harold

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#3 posted 07-02-2012 03:21 AM

Sometimes angles do not always work out perfect so here is what I would do. Draw a line from corner to corner in both directions so that you have a bisecting intersection in the center of your room. This is your starting point to lay your full tiles along those lines. Do a dry run first. As you work your way to the outside edges you can use a adjustable angle square to determine the cut angle. Transfer that angle to your tile and cut. Using this method you will not need to know exactly what any of the angles are. Good luck.! I would love to see pictures when it is complete. Feel free to message me with any questions.

-- Measure twice and cut once.....

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#4 posted 07-02-2012 03:22 AM

Yes, As long as they are laid perpendicular to the diagonal line from corner to corner. Cut some scrap pine and lay some out and I think you’ll be satisfied with the results. I had a similar problem laying 18×18 tile in a room that wasn’t square and we used this method. The baseboard covers the uneven gaps at the wall.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#5 posted 07-02-2012 03:44 AM

I added some more info in to the posting regarding the product I’m using. I’m not sure if this would change any of your thoughts, but here it is:

The planks are 12” X 36” each and look like tile. Each sheet contains (3) 12×12 faux tiles.

-- Harold

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#6 posted 07-02-2012 11:35 AM

It really does not matter the size of the tile, just be sure to start at the 2 bisecting lines in the middle. Also remember that you do not have to be that exact..You will want to leave just a little bit around the edges for expansion and this gap will be covered up with your base shoe molding or quarter round.

-- Measure twice and cut once.....

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#7 posted 07-02-2012 12:50 PM

One wall is probably at 48 degrees and the other 42. The easiest way is to snap your line where you want it then lay your plank along that, slide it to the corner and use a wide straight edge along the wall, scribe to your plank and now you can check your angle using your speed square. Does that make sense? Good luck

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#8 posted 07-18-2012 04:42 AM

A quick thanks to everyone that offered their help. I contacted the company only to learn that they do not recommend a diaginal. I tried anyway and continued to have a variety of issues. So I gave up and laid the planks straight as suggested by the company.

-- Harold

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#9 posted 07-18-2012 04:52 AM

45 degrees, PERIOD. You’ll end up with a diamond pattern and the diamonds will follow the wall. If you cut 48 or 42, the diamonds will be slightly un-parallel with the walls and it will look funny, uh I mean it will look like a drunk man did it. You said your tiles were 12×12. Only reason you can’t is if the tiles are not square. Even though yours are 12×36, the individual pattern is 12×12 so it will work.

...I know, but this is for next time. :)

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#10 posted 07-18-2012 03:39 PM

I would have chosen 45° relative to the entrance door; that is where it will be very visible.

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#11 posted 07-18-2012 03:50 PM

90 degrees is an angle. Just sayin’. I’m sure your wife will understand :)

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#12 posted 07-18-2012 04:45 PM

Rance makes a good point, unless of course you drink a lot !

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#13 posted 07-24-2012 02:40 AM

Good point Binhamton Ed

-- Harold

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#14 posted 07-24-2012 03:19 AM

Make sure you have enough extra material. Typical waste factor is 5%, but on a diagonal it can be anywhere from 15-30%. You already made one mistake though…should have bought your flooring at Lumber Liquidators (though maybe my opinion is a bit biased)

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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