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Howie

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760 days ago

It seems to me this site is becoming more attuned to everything but woodworking.
Religion,politics “new non woodworking products” etc
Yeah,I know if you don’t want to look don’t click but when it just says non shop talk you don’t know until it’s opened what it is about.

-- Life is good.


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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 760 days ago

”Yeah,I know if you don’t want to look don’t click but when it just says non shop talk you don’t know until it’s opened what it is about.”

But at least you know it’s not about woodworking.

I know…. it would be nice if we could keep the “friendly” non-shop topics separate from the political and religious posts, but I guess you can only have so many categories. And someone would always be posting in the wrong place anyway.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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GrandpaLen

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#2 posted 760 days ago

+1 for what Charlie said.

...but then without the Non Shop Talk page where would you have shared your expression of perplexites?

...and the few seconds lost, that it took to check and see if the Non Shop Talk post was something you might be interested in, ...well, you will never them get back.

Pictures of new Grandbabies, new Scooter, new boat, anything to be shared with friends has a home here.

Maybe what you need to do is ask Martin to adjust the Subject Line to include the Subject of the Non Shop Talk topic.

That would save everyone plenty of time in sorting what they wanted to waste their time reading about. :-)

I understand your point but this site only has a limited capability of prefiltering Topic Content, the rest is up to you.

Enjoy your world your way, here at LumberJocks. – Grandpa Len

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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KnickKnack

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#3 posted 760 days ago

Maybe what you need to do is ask Martin to adjust the Subject Line to include the Subject of the Non Shop Talk topic.

You can, although it isn’t obvious how…
Go to “Pulse”, select “show off topic titles”, back on the forum page, for this topic, instead of…
Off-topic content. Click to see the post.,
you’ll get
This site.

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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Howie

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#4 posted 759 days ago

Darn, I’ve been on this site for 767 days and into computers for over 20 years and I never knew what that button was. Duh

-- Life is good.

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mtenterprises

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#5 posted 759 days ago

It has been better as of late. Or so I think.
MIKE

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Rick

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#6 posted 758 days ago

Greetings All:

I Agree with Mike!! It could be a LOT Better, also as Len has stated it could be a GOOD Place for a “Coffee Break”. BUT! The Black Eye has been acquired and it’s going to be there for a while.

The following are MY Opinons ONLY!

1. The name itself, to me at any rate, sounds Negative. “Coffee Shop”, “Watering Hole” or whatever sounds a lot better.

2. “Click To see …..” is next to Childish. Why do they need to Censor the name of the Topic? Family Site? Someone is going to be Offended if they “SEE” the title? It seems to me to be a Good Reason Not to Click on it and waste your time just to see a Topic you’re possibbly not interested in then have to find your way back to where you were before.

3. I’m on a few other Forums. Rule #1 …... NO Politics Or Religous Posts! If you want to Discuss or Debate that, find a Forum Related to those Topics.The Moderators (usually 3 or 4 of them) who Actually Moderate and take part in the discussions, REMOVE it QUICK! and you get a Warning. Those 2 Topics along with some some Questionable Humour Topics, usually about the same thing, have Ruined “Non Shop Talk”.

I recently had an entire page removed from the Usual “Funny Guys”. Showing Half (or more) Nude Woman that were INCREDIBLY OBESSE and an X-Ray of a Woman with a Pop Bottle Inserted in Her “Private Parts”, that to My mind is SICK. I would have done more than just removed their page!!!

4. One of the ways around it is by NOT “Following The Rules” and Post the “Non Shop Topic” in another Forum, which I saw just now (for the first time, I THINK) wishing everyone a “Happy Fourth Of July” in the “Woodwork Skills, Finishing Forum” (or whatever it’s called). Nice gesture, pile of replies wishing Him the same and quite naturally No One would say ”Why did you Post this in this Forum? NOT ME …anymore.

5. I introduced a friend to this site a few months back. “What’s with this “Click to se …” stuff? I explained it to him. Told him I didn’t like it. Among other things he’s also a Computer Wizard. He came over here, fiddled around for 10/15 minutes …... “You’re all set up now.” I.E. NONE of my “Non Shop Topics” show up that way. They all the show the Title on pages such as “All Forums”. (DON’T tell anyone though …LOL.. “Somebody” might try to Undo it.) I also have NO idea how he did it.

6. The name of that “Topic” is ”Do You Hunt Moose? Have YOU had A TO CLOSE Encounter?” Posted about 2 Hours ago and I’ll bet you Dollars To Donuts it’s had over 100 “Views” and right now 3 Comments. Which May or May Not be another “Stiuation” on here.

I’ve seen Guys Remove their Topics AND Projects because of it. HOWEVER We’ve been through this before and along with Members wanting to change the way this site Functions for their own convenience …that Horse has been Flogged to Death. I have No Wish to take another Whack at it or MORE Discussion about it

If you’d like to see for yourself, just go to “Unanswered Topics” or “Projects” and see how many “Views” they’ve had and “0” Replies. The number of “Unanswered Topics” shows up at the bottom of the Page after you’ve clicked on “Show Unanswered ….)

EDIT: I just went to “Woodwork Finishing etc” That Forum has 101 Unanswered Topics. I Clicked on one. It had 324 “Views” and “0” Replies. Thought I’d post there as it was NICE WORK. Then send the Author a PM that I had done so, just so he would know It’s there. His Last “Apparent Activity” on here was 94 Days ago. Might be reasonably safe to assume he’s no longer an active member on here.

Thank you for taking the time to read My Ramblings.

My Regards to ALL: Rick

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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Howie

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#7 posted 758 days ago

I think you pretty well said it all Rick. And you did it without an insult to someones intelligence.

-- Life is good.

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lumberjoe

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#8 posted 758 days ago

I am a member of a few internet forums such as this, but with different focuses (cars and technical/engineering). All have “off topic” sections, all instantly lock and delete any post that is religious or political in nature. You will never be able to have a civil conversation about those two topics on the internet.
I’m not sure if that is possible here, moderation in general seems really lax

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KnickKnack

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#9 posted 758 days ago

Darn, I’ve been on this site for 767 days and into computers for over 20 years and I never knew what that button was. Duh

Pleased to have been of help to you Howie, although my comments were really directed towards GrandpaLen.

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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GrandpaLen

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#10 posted 758 days ago

KnickKnack,

I’ve been KnickKnacked and up to speed now. :-)

Went there, found it, done that, enlightened.

Thanks for the tutorial, I appreciate learning something new here at LJs each visit. – Grandpa Len

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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ChuckV

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#11 posted 758 days ago

There is a property of online discussions in general that I have observed. For people whose agenda is (politics, religion, human rights for goats, ...), every post is about (politics, religion, human rights for goats, ...).

For example

Original post:
“I live in Massachusetts. Last year we had about 16” of snow before Halloween.”
Political thread converter #1:
“Isn’t Massachusetts one of those whacky liberal states where everyone believes the hoax of global warming? HaHaHaHa! – LMAO”
Political thread converter #2:
“This is exactly the type of anomaly predicted by climate change and misunderstood by the nay-sayers.”

Original post:
“1 + 1 + 1 = 3”
Religious thread converter #1:
“I believe in the Holy Trinity. You are wrong. 1 + 1 + 1 = 1.”
Religious thread converter #2:
“I am a practicing member of Atheists Against Addition. Please take your religious rantings elsewhere.”

I am leaving the “human-rights-for-goats thread converter” example to the reader.

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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Rick

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#12 posted 757 days ago

Howie:

Thank you for your “Words”. I appreciate them.

Lumberjoe: “Lax” is a Nice way of putting it. ...LOL…

I’m OFF this Post now. I can Sense (Removed on EDIT)

Rick

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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Jimbo4

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#13 posted 749 days ago

ChuckV – Does that goat have blue eyes?

-- BELT SANDER: Used for making rectangular gouges in wood.

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Dan'um Style

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#14 posted 749 days ago

MY BEST ADVICE to all my lumberbuds

.... If you don’t like the forum topics go look at the projects and blogs for awhile. Quit drama mining.

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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oldnovice

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#15 posted 749 days ago

Charlie, Dan,

I agree!

If you look for drama you will find it, that goes for this site or any other social site.

However, if you want some real good wood workers to virtually hang out with and get there insight this is also the place!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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