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Forum topic by 12strings posted 06-28-2012 10:45 PM 727 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12strings

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06-28-2012 10:45 PM

1. Has anyone sharpened up one of those black-handled stanley backsaws that come with a yellow mitre box and used it for dovetails and/or tenons? I did that with mine, and It’s ok, though after cutting all the dovetails for my toolchest (see my projects), I think it’s getting dull again. Go ahead and call me a cheap-o, I can take it.

2. I would like to get a better backsaw, but don’t really want to get a set of several expensive saws. Could I just get a rip carcass saw for both tenons and dovetails?

-- I'm strictly hand-tool only...unless the power tool is faster and easier!


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Dennisgrosen

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#1 posted 06-28-2012 11:05 PM

look at Brit last blog with vidio about sharpening a backsaw
he has made several blogs about saws
he posted the last a few days ago

Dennis

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#2 posted 06-28-2012 11:13 PM

During manufacturing, don’t they heat-treat the teeth after sharpening to improve the durability of the saw?

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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Rob Drown

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#3 posted 06-28-2012 11:53 PM

Veritas has some tenon and dovetail saw in the $60 range. They are good saw too!

-- The expectations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools. Confucius, 经过艰苦的努力的梦想可以成真

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#4 posted 06-29-2012 05:12 AM

The cheap saw’s teeth are basically just stamped out and sharpened roughly by machine to a barely usable state. There really is nothing wrong with the materials. The nice wooden handles and pretty brass back probably only amount to, at best, $10-$20 difference in the price of the expensive saws. The premium price is really paying for better sharpening and setting without the economy of scale of a big production facility.

You do have to wonder who Stanley is marketing those saws to though. A well sharpened handsaw cuts so well that it makes you wonder why people wouldn’t use them more. A poorly sharpened saw is an exercise in frustration.

For dovetails, I like the $8 Zona razor saws. Great little saws and cheap.

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rance

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#5 posted 06-29-2012 05:37 AM

1) You’re a cheap-o.

2) Yes. Actually, I’ve found a crosscut saw can be used for ripping(ie. dovetails), but a rip saw won’t do well on crosscuts. +1 what Rob Drown said.

Rance (a fellow cheap-o)

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