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745 days ago

I recently saw a project post that got me thinking. Why do all images of Jesus and Mary depict them as white, Europeans? It must have been a very long journey for Mary and Joseph to travel from Europe to Israel (on a donkey) just to have a baby. What were they thinking?

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#1 posted 745 days ago

as i understand it
in the middle ages
nobody had been out of their valley
or fiefdom
save for some merchants and soldiers

and nobody save the rich could read

so the church re-wrote the bible
to appear to be familiar with the lives of these peasants
(like who cared about someone that lived a years walk away)

in today’s world
joseph and mary
would live in a chevy nova
and have their baby
in the parking lot
at wal-mart

all of the iconic religious art is from europe too
with scenes from that time and place too

madison avenue selling religion
to the masses

just like today

for the second coming
maybe jesus will be born
in the bario or ghetto
and overcome all the trials and tribulations

probably not born rich
and go to harvard
in a mercedes

with churches changing the story
thru the ages to suit their needs
anything is possible

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#2 posted 745 days ago

Very convenient…a white god for white folks. If I was black or brown and christian I would demand the truth. It is never too late to come clean.

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#3 posted 745 days ago

the whole world
is tweeting for truth

stay tuned
it could happen

just don’t get rid
of your tin-foil hat
if you have one

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#4 posted 745 days ago

The tinfoil hat I keep by the bed. It goes on first thing in the morning and it’s the last thing off at night. How about you. Where do you keep yours?

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#5 posted 745 days ago

Actually, if you go to Mexico, Korea, whatever, the iconic pictures of them are of the people of the area. Even Africa.

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#6 posted 745 days ago

That then begs the question, what did he really look like? What do you think?

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#7 posted 745 days ago

i have a tin-foil pyramid over my bed
and don’t leave much
it sharpens my chisels too

good point craftman
every one is doing it

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#8 posted 745 days ago

We have very old manuscripts of most of the manuscripts of the books of the Bible from 2000 to 3000 years old. In the best translations there has been little change. We also have copies of the scribes who were trained meticulously to copy the books of the Old Testament from generation to generation. The copies of these scribed copies that we have vary little from generation to generation.

Artwork means nothing on this subject – art is art – art is created by artists – they depict their art however they want to.

The Lord Jesus Christ in the Book of the Revelation made it clear that in the latter days Christians would be hated and would have to go through trials and tribulations and maybe even die because of our beliefs. He also said that we would have a great falling away within the church in the latter days. The fact that people in this country are beginning to show their hatred towards Christians doesn’t surpprise me at all. It’s simply the signs of the times. People can ridicule people like me all they want to. The Lord told us that for those who followed Him there would be trouble in this world. He didn’t at all promise us a rose garden.

helluvawreck
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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#9 posted 745 days ago

Nooooooooooooo way Patron…I have a pyramid also, just was afraid to say so. Don’t want anyone thinking I’m crazy.

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#10 posted 745 days ago

Helluvawreck, I’m not attacking your belief system, I’m asking what he looked like. Probably just like my avatar, right?

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#11 posted 745 days ago

i like jesus
and budda
and the dali lama

i like who and what they stand for
not to good at anyone else’s religious beliefs myself
just do the best i can

i would love to sit on my deck
and talk with anyone of them

bald bearded or long haired
makes no difference to me

he just might look like you DKV
and live in sacramento too

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#12 posted 745 days ago

what are you, some kind of racist? what difference does it make what he looked like?

he was every man….and can identify with every man…. regardless of whether they look like him or not.

that’s exactly why each culture and ethnicity depicts him in their own image…. because they see him as being just like them.

this much we know for sure…. he wasn’t no hollywood star or politician, but rather, “he had not stately form, nor magesty, that we should be drawn to him”

OBTW there are rich politicians and bankers and industrialist of every ethnicity, exploiting the poor in ever country on the globe….. caucasions most definately do NOT have that market cornered.

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#13 posted 745 days ago

“He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.” Isaiah 53:3

Jesus told the Apostles that if you have seen me then you have seen the Father.

helluvawreck
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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#14 posted 745 days ago

Helluvawreck speaks the truth….....twice.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#15 posted 745 days ago

SSNVET, I’ll say it once more. I’m not disparaging your beliefs. What I want to know is what he looked like in real life. You don’t have to preach to me being a racist, etc. Again, what did he look like even though it doesn’t matter to you. Help me out here.
Patron, he may look like me but I can promise he would not live in Sac when he has San Diego to choose from.
RockyTop, I’m glad for helluvawreck…...twice.

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