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Chip

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07-10-2008 05:46 AM

.. that I can work for roughly 20 to 30 minutes before clamping is complete. I believe Titebonds I, II, III are workable from 5 to 10 minutes and I need at least twice that amount of time for assembly. I’d appreciate any comments or suggestions.

-- Better to say nothing and be thought the fool... then to speak and erase all doubt!


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GaryK

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#1 posted 07-10-2008 06:04 AM

You get a good open time with this stuff.

Weldwood Plastic Resin Glue, Dap Brand.

Just mix what you need. Dries very hard and takes about 10+ hours to dry good.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#2 posted 07-10-2008 06:04 AM

I just baught some tight bond polyurethane liquid glue, it says it has an open working time of 30 min and is 100% cured in 4 hrs.

I have never tried it before though so I can’t say for sure how true this is or how well it works, just thought I would give it a try. Sorry I am not more help.

-- Glenn, New Mexico

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lew

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#3 posted 07-10-2008 06:35 AM

I have read that hide glue gives a longer open time. I believe that TiteBond has a hide glue.

Lew

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Loren

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#4 posted 07-10-2008 06:48 AM

I use white glue for most furniture making… mostly because
it has a longer open time than yellow glue.

I’ve tried liquid hide glue and don’t see any advantage to it.

I have a glue pot for hide glue too but never use it.

Plastic resin glue is good for lamination because it doesn’t creep
out of the joints over time like yellow glue will.

White glue is, in my opinion, more brittle and resistant to
creep than yellow glue. Plastic resin glue is still more brittle
and creep resistant – and inferior in filling gaps.

Polyeurethane glue is good too, but sometimes messy and it
goes bad quickly in the bottle.

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John Ormsby

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#5 posted 07-10-2008 07:07 AM

Try Unibond 800. It will work for glueing solid woods and veneering.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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Jeff

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#6 posted 07-10-2008 03:10 PM

Chip! Long time no chat! It’s good to hear from ya man.

I have just used some slow-set epoxy on a project and was pretty happy with it. It’s also formulated for gap filling and has a 30 – 40 minute open time. The brand is System Three and the product is T88. The guys at Rockler turned me on to it. Here is a link to T88 in the LJ store

I think West Systems has a slow-set hardener as well.

-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN

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Chip

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#7 posted 07-10-2008 05:35 PM

Great information and thank you all very, very much!

-- Better to say nothing and be thought the fool... then to speak and erase all doubt!

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#8 posted 07-10-2008 06:52 PM

Another vote for epoxy. I’ve used the West epoxy which is real easy to work with as far as mixing as long as you count the pump strokes from the resin and hardener. I had probably 25 minutes open time even from the fast hardener which should be somewhat less, but the summer heat would probably shorten that. The slow hardener should give you ample time. It will help if you can get a helper though. You want to pre-wet the joint with just the mixed epoxy then add thickened epoxy on one side. It’s nice to have someone that can keep spreading some of the unthickened stuff as you take the rest and start stirring the thickener in. Dont overdo it with the glue though The stuff is hard as rocks when cured and getting squeezeout removed will dull your chisels fast.

-- Use the fence Luke

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Chris

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#9 posted 07-10-2008 08:31 PM

I have a couple of friends who use slow setting epoxy in the boat building business. I thing they are using West systems as well…

-- "Everything that is great and inspiring is created by the individual who labors in freedom" -- Albert Einstein

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