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Forum topic by Sirgreggins posted 751 days ago 2827 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Sirgreggins

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751 days ago

I know this has been beaten to death but hopefully this is the last of the them. The more reviews i read the more unsure i become of this saw. I looks like a good saw for an amateur like me. I certainly expect it to be better than one i would buy from a home center. Is the fence that impossible to get square and does the blade really go out of alignment during height changes. I just can’t imagine spending $950 after shipping for such ridiculous problems. I try to take reviews with a grain of salt and there have been many positive review but many people mention the fence and blade alignment during height change problems. Please help me out here guys. Remember i’m an amateur and am not going to be building huge projects. As much as i’d love to have a $3,000+ Delta Unisaw, space and budget are a concern. Thanks everyone. There’s a lot of great info on here.


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Bill White

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#1 posted 751 days ago

I looked up some reviews on Lumberjocks. Most were pretty decent.
I have a Grizz 1067Z lathe, 0444Z table saw and a new 0555Z bandsaw. My opinions are skewed ‘cause all have been very good tools. Am I just lucky?
Bill

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Sirgreggins

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#2 posted 751 days ago

Maybe some people are just unlucky. I guess when i was reading reviews for my bosch router kit a lot of people said the power switch was crap but man, what a great tool. thanks. many reviews were good, but bad reviews tend to scare me even if there’s 100 good and 5 bad. lol

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ShaneA

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#3 posted 751 days ago

Seems to me, and I am no Grizzly expert, that if you can get a good unit from them, you are ahead in terms of value. However, inventory and QC seems to be a recurring theme in a lot of what i read about them. The wait to get one can be long if they are backordered. However, the value seems good providing whatever unit you choose works well out of the box. Lots of people love them. Good luck in searching/deciding.

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crashn

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#4 posted 751 days ago

I have this saw, for about a year. I am very happy with it. During blade height changes, the blade DOES NOT go out of alignment. However at full height, i do have some deflection at the top of the blade, but I have never measured it with a dial indicator. Not a problem for me, as I have not had a need to cut through 3 1/8 inch stock. I have re-sawed with it, 3 inches at a time in a 6 inch piece, not a problem. I just don’t use that last 1/8 of height. I have had it on 110 and 220, both operate the same, just prefer 220 for the less amp draw and the free 110 socket that i get back.

My experience, ymmv

-- Crashn - the only thing I make more of than sawdust is mistakes

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Sirgreggins

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#5 posted 751 days ago

Great. Thanks guys, i really appreciate it. At 3 1/8” i would expect some deflection. 220v is definitely the way to go if you can, i agree,

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Tyrone D

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#6 posted 751 days ago

Perhaps the alignment problems is just a matter of tightening a bolt. It could just be that the hole where the arbor mounts on is drilled non-90degrees which would mean the saw is more or less a throwaway unless you can get a whole new trunnion.
Personally, I’m an advocate for used machinery. Take an old classic saw and make it look new again. I’ve got some paint drying on a ‘53 Delta/Rockwell bandsaw right now.

-- --Tyrone - BC, Canada "Nothing is ever perfect, we just run out of time."

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MrUnix

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#7 posted 751 days ago

As much as i’d love to have a $3,000+ Delta Unisaw, space and budget are a concern.

You don’t have your location listed, so it may be a very different situation where you are… but down around my neck of the woods you can find very good condition used Unisaws all over in the $500-$1000 range, and usually they will already have all the upgrades you want (table extensions, upgraded fence, mobile base, etc..). You just need a little patience and be persistent in your search. I’m like Tyrone in that I prefer used machinery, and have found that for a fraction of the cost of new, you can get a better built machine that will perform just as well or better than the new plastic and stamped steel stuff out there now.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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Sirgreggins

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#8 posted 751 days ago

i’m in boston. there are a few on craigslist for my area but a a bit rough. i have a bunch of other old powertools that are great but i kind of want to go new on the table saw. My bridgeport is from the 50’s and was kept well. there’s no rust believe it or not. I have looked for used unisaws though for sure. If something comes up in really good condition i’ll pounce. i just figured i’d get an idea of what the new saw would be like. thanks again for all the great advice and feedback

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sixstring

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#9 posted 751 days ago

You know, I just shopped around the Boston Craigslist and didnt see the same kind of availability and pricing that I generally see here in San Francisco. Saw some nice looking Powermatics and Delta Unisaws, but man, those prices seem outragous to me. Then I looked at that Grizzly model you are considering. It’s a 2hp saw so you can plug it in to 120v which may be a plus for you. If you plan on ripping hardwoods (4/4 or thicker,) I think you would really prefer a 3 or 5hp saw running at 240v.

Spending that much dough should mean having the right tool for the job. So a lot depends on what kind of work you will be doing, the space you have available, and your proficiency with tool maintenance/repair. I can still get a lot done w/ my beater Ryobi saw, but having moved up to a used PM66, I dont know how I ever got by without it. The power of a 3hp motor, the sturidness and dead flatness of the solid steel top, the sheer weight and lack of vibration, and the good old American qualities of overbuilt quality… Safe and durable.

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david_larch

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#10 posted 751 days ago

I bought this saw earlier in the year and love almost everything about it. I emailed Grizz prior to ordering to ask about the blade parallelism. They said it was an early manufacture problem. Whether that’s true or not I can’t say – mine is true up and down. I figured worst case I would have a defensible argument if it was wacky, but it’s not. Fence is pretty good and I check it regularly. The only thing I didn’t like was the factory power cord which I replaced with a longer one. I use a Forrest blade and Delta dado set and get super good cuts.

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knotscott

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#11 posted 751 days ago

The guts of the G0715P are very similar to the guts of the Ridgid R4512 and Cman 21833….all of which have had numerous reports of an alignment issue when the blade height changes. The problem obviously didnt’ effect every saw, but it was more than an isolated defect. Grizzly seemed to get after the problem a bit earlier….not really sure where Ridgid and Craftsman stand right now, but it’s been a quite a while so I’d think they’d all be getting this issue resolved.

I haven’t read about any fence issues with the G0715P, so whatever you read was likely an isolated problem. Deflection problems would likely attributed to the blade, though possibly the saw.

Without the alignment problem, the G0715P should make for a great hobby saw….it’s got a full enclosure, riving knife, two solid cast iron wings, and a steel t-square Biese home style fence at a competitive price. Put a good blade on it, and you should be set.

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gfadvm

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#12 posted 750 days ago

I have had that Grizz saw for just under 2 years and have had no problems with the fence or blade alignment. I use Freud Diablo blades (24 and 40 tooth) and have cut a lot of tough wood Ipe, Osage Orange/hedge, Jatoba, etc. I do keep my blades clean and sharp but have never felt it was underpowered for what I do. As far as accuracy, the EZ Mitre boxes I posted require accurate cuts and I had no probs. Just my experience. Your mileage may be different!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Rick M.

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#13 posted 750 days ago

If you’re really worried about it, I believe there is a Jet 2HP hybrid saw in the same price range.

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lieutenantdan

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#14 posted 750 days ago

Three words. Cabinet mounted trunion.

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americanwoodworker

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#15 posted 749 days ago

I bought one when it first came out at an intro. price. I think it cost me about $750 shipping included. Personally I would save up a little longer and buy something better. Mine runs just fine. I upgraded the fence because the stock fence sucks, as most do. I put on a vega pro. The other thing that sucks is the angle gauge. It is a sticker and came off within the first few months. I found it to be under powered just ripping 2x pine. Fine tuning was not easy either.

I will keep mine until I find a once in a lifetime deal on something better. Which for me will probly be forever. You are better off buying something better. Just my opinion.

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