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Forum topic by KnickKnack posted 06-19-2012 03:53 PM 898 views 1 time favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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KnickKnack

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06-19-2012 03:53 PM

Wood generally changes colour when the finish is applied – something dull and lifeless suddenly springs to life to reveal all its glory.
But I find while I’m working on a piece I like to, once in a while, get a glimpse at how it’s going to turn out – for example is that ash going to contrast with jatoba nicely or nastily?
Obviously experience helps a lot here, but I do resort to a quick wipe of white spirit once in a while to get some idea.

My question – aside from white spirit, are there any other ways, tips or tricks to get an idea of how something is likely to finish without actually applying finish?

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."


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DamnYankee

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#1 posted 06-19-2012 04:03 PM

The only thing I’ve ever used is mineral spirits (what you call white spirits?). Water works too, but doesn’t dry as fast and is more likely to raise grain.

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#2 posted 06-19-2012 04:05 PM

I like Naphtha because it dries faster, but then you have less time to stand back and look at it.

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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rance

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#3 posted 06-19-2012 04:08 PM

I typically use DNA. Dries extremely quick and does not affect the finish.

If I have no DNA around, I just spit on it. Really.

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#4 posted 06-19-2012 04:08 PM

I like mineral spirits. I have used water, but it can raise the grain on some woods. I have also used denatured alcohol, but it evaporates quickly and also has a tendency to raise the grain.

-- The more I work with wood the more I recognize only God can make something as beautiful as a tree. I hope my humble attempts at this craft do justice by His masterpiece. -- Tim

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#5 posted 06-19-2012 04:09 PM

take scraps and finish them with different techniques until you find one that you like.

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woodchucker29

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#6 posted 06-20-2012 01:59 PM

i’ve always used mineral spirits. waho’s idea to finish a couple of scraps is great, i’ll be using this in the future

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#7 posted 06-21-2012 01:00 AM

But you do need to apply finish. Wetting with anything will show colour but not proper depth or sheen which are important. I always take a longish finish sanded strip, separate into areas with masking tape and apply every finish at my disposal. When dry it’s easy to see which one is right and how the different woods look next to each other. Rather than being disappointed, it is worth the trouble.
gene

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Lee A. Jesberger

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#8 posted 06-21-2012 01:06 AM

We use naptha, mineral spirits, and alcohol. Of the three the alcohol evaporates the fastest, so you have to look fast. LOL

Lee

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#9 posted 06-21-2012 06:09 AM

I always just cut scrap pieces and stain/finish those and see how they turn out and decide how to proceed from there

-- Ben from IL

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KnickKnack

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#10 posted 06-22-2012 02:29 PM

Thanks to all.
I tried DNA (once I’d worked out that I didn’t need to be recreating a scene from Macbeth and boiling up my hair and toenail clippings), but that did raise the grain.
I think waho/Gene’s idea is a good one – I really ought to do that – I must get away from an “instant gratification” mindset.

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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