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754 days ago

I’m starting this topic because, well… it’s already been started in another topic, the posts being widely dispersed throughout that other topic. This way we can keep all those posts together and easier to follow. If you have an interest in making a website to display, write about, sell or otherwise show-off your woodworking endeavors, feel free to jump right in.

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th


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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#1 posted 754 days ago

SPLASH.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#2 posted 754 days ago

Wow, that’s a big splash.. must be all that English bacon! LOL

Welcome to the web nerd zone Rex :)

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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#3 posted 754 days ago

I name this thread Making Websites, may Ted protect her, and all who post in her.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#4 posted 754 days ago

Just a quick note about my web building expertise.. expertise is too big a word. I’ve been dabbling in making websites for a couple of years now, but still don’t actually have one online, mostly because I’ve been more interested in how it’s done than actually doing it. But that’s going to change now. I’m going to go ahead and build myself a real live website.

I use Joomla! (yes, it’s properly spelt with the ! for added drama) which you can learn more about at http://joomla.org.

Another platform that I’ve dabbled in is WordPress, which you can learn more about at http://wordpress.org.

Both of these website building platforms are what’s known as a CMS, or Content Management System. They are free to download and use, and they are the two most popular among litereally hundreds of other CMS.. many of which are free and many of which aren’t.

Both Joomla! and WordPress can be used to make a basic website, but they originated from two different perspectives. Joomla was originally designed to host a community, not unlike the one right here at LumberJocks. WordPress was originally developed to be used as a blog, or online journal. However, they have both morphed over the years to accommodate a wider user base, to the point where either one can be used for either purpose. It is beyond the scope of this post to elaborate but, suffice to say, they work differently, have different features, and they each have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Here are two demo website created by RocketTheme, a commercial template provider. One is built on Joomla and the other is built on WordPress…

Joomla => http://demo.rockettheme.com/nov11/

WordPress => http://demo.rockettheme.com/wordpress/wp_enigma/

They look identical, but under the hood they are radically different.

The Joomla site can be used as a blog, but it is better suited for example, an online catalog, a community, or a corporate type website.

The WordPress site can be used as an online catalog, a community (with limited funcitonality) or a corporated website, but it is better suited to be used as an online journal, or a blog as it is better known.

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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#5 posted 754 days ago

Okay, too complicated…

Go to http://wordpress.com and create a free blog.

Optionally, you can purchase hosting from http://godaddy.com or http://bluehost.com or http://hostgator.com and install wordpress (http://wordpress.org) on your own domain.

I already have hosting with BlueHost.com so that’s what I’ll use. Also, I use Joomla but I’m also familiar with WordPress and will gladly help out with either, if I can.

Later!

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#6 posted 754 days ago

Ted,
If the intent is to develop a web presence for LJs to catalog and sell their wares, which package is the best to use. Can we not choose ONE package and go from there?

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#7 posted 754 days ago

I use WordPress. I also have experience with Simple Machines forum software.

My hosting service…

http://www.charlottezweb.com/

I originally started with GoDaddy and got terrible service. Their servers were slow and a constant stream of errors.

-- http://www.garagebulletin.com/

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#8 posted 754 days ago

Great thread Ted,
That has a ring.
Here is my first
www.chiselandforge.com
Lets build some sites together.
A little about me. I am in the IT field but I am not a programer. This is new and interesting ground for me.

Thanks for posting.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#9 posted 754 days ago

Ecwid (http://www.ecwid.com/) is easy to set up and can be plugged into any website. I have tried it and I’m really impressed with their setup, and it’s free. For $17 a month one can use the advanced features, but most hobbyist woodworkers don’t need all that.

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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#10 posted 754 days ago

I use Hostgator.com, great service and good package pricing. It fits my site www.generationwoodworks.com perfect.

-- list your handcrafted treasures @ www.generationwoodworks.com for free!

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#11 posted 754 days ago

Stephen, SMF that is an excellent forum software. I’m a big fan of their nearest competitor, phpBB, but I use Kunena because it installs on Joomla. There doesn’t seem to be much forum options for WordPress, which has always surprised me.

I’ve never tried GoDaddy hosting but from what I understand they are a good choice for simple websites. All the bad things I’ve heard seem to come from people wanting to create larger websites with advanced functionality. I’ve never heard of CharlottezWeb. Their prices seem good but the packages are rather limited. I like BlueHost because they have unlimited pretty much everything, and they’ve proven to be pretty dependable and have good support. I’ve also used HostGator and can say the same for them.

I like your website. Looks like you got the little one started on woodworking. After he’s done with that toolbox you should post it in the Projects section. :)

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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#12 posted 754 days ago

Nice website Dave.. looks familiar :). I like them nice clean urls ;)

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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#13 posted 754 days ago

Gen (mind if I save myself some typing? :) it’s like you read my mind. I’m currently working on a similar type of site, but using WordPress in multisite mode and some e-commerce plugins. Every member will have their own blog/store and, like on your site, products will be promoted on the home page. I’ve been testing it for a couple of months now but running into some obstacles. I’ll probably be launching in the next week or so.

I like the nice, clean look of your site. Mind if I ask what platform you’re using?

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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AndyDuframe

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#14 posted 754 days ago

(I already have hosting with BlueHost.com so that’s what I’ll use.)

I also use BlueHost, and I’ve found their interface to be fairly straightforward and easy to use (well, as easy as I’ve found in the always-complicated world of web hosting interfaces). Of course, once you have a hosting account set up, you can install whatever you like to serve as the backbone of your site (wordpress, html, etc.).

I’ve created both WordPress sites and hand-coded html sites, and against most popular opinion, I have to say I prefer building my own pages in html. The problem with WP (at least for me) is the PHP code—which means if I want to make the slightest change to the look and feel of a particular WP theme, I pretty much have to be a friggin’ programmer to figure out how to do it. Sure, the newer themes have better user interfaces these days, but we’re still talking a PHP-based site, which can be difficult to fix if it breaks and you don’t know PHP.

The real value in WP is that it provides a super easy and quick way for internet marketers to pump out thousands of websites full of pure junk, sites that Google loves to put on page one. Pretty heavenly, if that’s your thing.

-- http://www.ezwoodshop.com

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#15 posted 754 days ago

Dave, good news.. subscriptions are working properly. I got the email notification about “Dovetails On My Mind”. Now I won’t miss a single post on your site.

Hi Andy. It’s true, a lot of junk sites are built on wordpress, but so are a lot of really great and resourceful sites. I guess that’s just the nature of the Web… there will always be plenty of junk sites. What you say about editing themes is also one my pet peaves about using wordpress, and one of my reasons for using Joomla instead—WP templates are just too darn confusing. The back-end interface that so many come shipped with these days does help, but it also limits how much you can do. Joomla templates seem a lot easier to edit, although they are still written in PHP. Many Joomla template providers are moving to proprietary interfaces, which is starting to complicate things. In fact, I may be forced into finally learning actual programming, as opposed to the copy/paste style hacking I’ve been doing.

ezwoodshop.com looks really nice, and looks like a lot of useful information there. I bookmarked it so I can check it out later.

Everybody, I’m putting together a simple tutorial on how to install and configure a simple wordpress powered website, along with a storefront so you can sell your stuff, and a few other features I think you may find useful. It will be directed mostly to the absolute novice who wants a simple website to get started. It’s going to take a couple of days, but I’ll post it here when it’s ready.

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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