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Forum topic by Carya posted 06-11-2012 02:16 AM 3419 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-11-2012 02:16 AM

I’ve been asked to build a gate on a deck, to keep animals from getting into the yard, across the 48” wide opening for the stairs. I’d like to build two doors that open and close like French doors and swing both ways like the doors to a restaurant kitchen. The doors, slightly less than 24” wide, would be much easier to negotiate than a single 48” wide gate, and swinging both ways would make it easy to move on and off the deck. What sort of hinge do I use? I’ve looked in big box stores and nothing fits the bill. If anyone knows the answer to my question or has a better idea please let me know. Thanks ahead of time.

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#1 posted 06-11-2012 02:20 AM

I saw these today when I was poking around Lee-Valley looking for some hardware for a project I am working on. I think this is what you are describing:,41241

-- Mike

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#2 posted 06-11-2012 01:58 PM

I picked up some double swing hinges from HD for a set of saloon doors I made…those should work well for what you want. They allow the door to swing both ways and are adjustable for swing force

-- Stan from St. Paul Mn

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#3 posted 06-11-2012 04:06 PM

It sounds like they’ll have to have some element of exterior usage to them. Keep that in mind. It may mean painting them, some sort of coating, or periodic maintenance with oil.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#4 posted 06-11-2012 05:30 PM

I encountered a similar situation and choose to use some wooden toy wheels the make the gate roll back behind the handrail like a pocket door. A wide gate swinging into the deck was not acceptable, and entering the deck from the outside you would have to step back down the stairs if it opened out.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#5 posted 06-11-2012 07:35 PM

Furthering what devann is saying, it could actually knock you off the deck or catch someone at head/face level if they are in the wrong place at the wrong time.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#6 posted 06-12-2012 11:03 AM

paratrooper34: Your LINK goes to LV’s Home Page. It’s in “Hardware” and “Hinges” are all listed on one page in there.

This is the Link to ”Double-ActingHinges”,41241

IF it works …LOL..

Yep. It works.

-- Made In Ontario, CANADA

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#7 posted 06-12-2012 02:45 PM

paratrooper34’s link works if I open it in a new window.

Rick’s works when I click it directly. It’s just browser behavior.

I still think devann’s solution is the best unless the other is the route you really, really want to go in. There are some that don’t have the spring in them that swings the gates. I’d probably go that route if you plan on using a double hinge.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#8 posted 06-12-2012 08:44 PM

I’ve seen the gate sag problem solved, Jonathan, but doubling them on the top. It ain’t particularly pretty.

The spring loaded hinges talked about are designed for 1 3/4 door thickness. The problem isn’t just sag, it’s that the gate, with its mass, swung, gets extended by centrifugal force and then clunks into the other jamb (or in Carya’s case, the mating door.

There is a cruder hinge, called a pintl, which you’ve doubtless seen.

The risk with these can be the mass of the hinge exerting stress on its own construction when it is opened too far. But they work. I guess my biggest concern would be that the dogs could still get through if you used this type hinge.



-- " his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#9 posted 06-13-2012 02:00 AM

If the gates are going to be almost 24” wide each, I would agree with devann’s suggestion since that’s a lot of weight to have swinging around (might be little kids, etc). Plus if the animals are big enough and there’s no latch which might be hard to do on two swinging gates, the animals could just push their way into the yard anyway.

-- Ben from IL

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#10 posted 06-13-2012 11:45 AM

Wow. Thanks guys. You bring up a lot of good points I never thought of.

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#11 posted 06-13-2012 10:31 PM


Right again Buddy ! I tried what you said and opened paratroopers in a New Window. BINGO! “A Browser thing”. There I was and here I am and away I go …LOL..

Your Welcome Carya. Always Our Pleasure to Help when we can.

EDIT: I went back to Lee Valley. I ned some Decorative Hinges for 4 Sets of Window Shutters. There’s a LOT of Hinges on there! This Link will take you to ALL the Hinges they carry Page. Might be of some assistance.

Each one of them Opens into MORE Hinges …LOL… The page look looks like this:


These looked Very COOL! From Australia. Made with Heavy Duty UV Resistant, Glass Fibre Nylon. Lifetime Guarantee.


You’ll have to forgive me Carya. I’m like a Kid in a Candy Shop when I get on LV’s Site …LOL..


-- Made In Ontario, CANADA

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