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Nothing quite like having an oddball first post…but here we go! For the last 25yrs I’ve been using a std Sears 113.xxx series table saw for my modest ripping/dado chores. I use my shop to prototype new pieces of equipment, so my cuts are rather ‘boring’ for the furniture craftsmen out there. Since the saw got the job done without too much fuss and bother, I never though much about replacing it. Then along comes a new Biesemeyer T-square saw fence set (via CL) for the ridiculously low price of $100. This got me to thinking that I could build a work table incorporating both the 113 and the new fence into the design. Great plan (for the moment) but I quickly grew concerned that I was trying to pull the old “silk purse/sow’s ear” trick by dumping cash into a 30yr old saw. Hence my post to you good folks…what’s the best bang-for-the-buck out there for a durable, utility usage table saw? Most of my cuts are 90 degrees (or dado tracks) into 3/4” plywood or cypress. I’d like to keep it sub $800 and don’t really care if it’s a cabinet, hybrid or contractors model. I’m also open to finding a good, used machine if the price is right. I’ve spent days reading the different threads/articles/reviews and now find myself over-thinking the solution. I know my requirements are modest, so can you folks please get me back on track? Thanks!


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#1 posted 774 days ago

I would go the used cabinet saw route. There’s nothing like a saw with power. The power makes all the difference.

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#2 posted 774 days ago

I don’t think you will find a saw that that fence will work on… You’d better send it to me for disposal! ;-D

I’ve been looking for a $100 beisemeyer fence for my Jet TS for a while and haven’t had any luck.
Then you come along with the opposite problem.

First off, any saw you end up putting it on will be improved right out of the gate.
If I were in your shoes, I’d decide what minimum things I want in the TS and keep my eyes peeled for another CL deal. Seems you have a knack for it.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#3 posted 774 days ago

You can credit the B. fence find to pure luck! ;-) The used cabinet makes sense; are there any to avoid?? Also, what to look for in a used saw that’s often purchased for commercial work?

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gatorgrabber

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#4 posted 774 days ago

I ran across a Ridgid R4511 Granite Top Table Saw (in great shape) for $450 (OBO)...any potential? Checking reviews now.

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#5 posted 774 days ago

That was pretty close to the new price.

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gatorgrabber

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#6 posted 774 days ago

Now that you mention that…let’s see what he’ll take for it.

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#7 posted 774 days ago

The R4511 was a pretty nice saw if you don’t mind the granite top and the fence (which is moot point in your case!). It’s made by Steel City/Orion and has the nice big yoke style cabinet mounted trunnions that are easy to align. $450 is pretty steep IMO…I’d be more willing to offer $300-$350 is it’s really nice and includes some goodies I’d be interested in. You can always sell the stock fence to offset some of the cost.

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#8 posted 774 days ago

I just found an estate sale with a Delta 36-L51X for $1500 and a 34-450 for $350 (OBO). Both look to be a very nice and solid saws. Is there a way to tell the build date on the older saw?

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gatorgrabber

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#9 posted 774 days ago

Answered my own question…1964. Wow, these cabinet saws are beasts! I think I’m going to regret waiting so long to switch over.

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#10 posted 774 days ago

One thing I’ve noticed about the forums on this site is that when you ask a question about which is the best table saw to buy or something to that effect most (not all) will tell you to go the route that they went if they had a good experience, which isn’t a bad thing at all but your going to get a lot of different answers usually confusing you even more. Knotscott and a few others are great for giving advice on saws, Scott helped me out a great deal when I replaced my saw a few months ago. I think your best bet is to do your research, keep your eye out on Craigslist if you find a good deal go for it. I like to buy all my stuff new because atleast from the tools I’ve had, it seems tools have a lot of problems and I like to have the warranties but to each his own. Just do your research and make the best decision for your needs and your budget.

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#11 posted 773 days ago

Agreed. I’ve learned that when you ask about what to buy, you actually learn more about what not to buy! This is often more useful info. With few exceptions, there’s rarely a ‘best’ item of anything out there. What I’ve gleaned, so far, from this thread is that I should give the cabinet saws a closer look. I’m big on keeping tools around for quite a while, so hunting for quality almost always wins over price. If I can buy a new, good cabinet saw on my budget, I will. That failing, I’ll hunt up a decent, used unit and go from there. I’ve been astounded by just how tough the better (and older) cabinet saws seem to be built; lots of metal in those beasts! This has been very interesting research.

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toolie

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#12 posted 773 days ago

or you could just put the fence on you c-man, like this:

then get the issue of shopnotes that has plans for a support cabinet for your c-man contractor saw. my saw dates to the late 70s and the arbor cradle is much better built than the cradle on my 2003 ridgid 2412, even though both saws are emerson electric built saws. add that bies to the c-man and spend the mioney saved on more tools.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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gatorgrabber

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#13 posted 773 days ago

That’s kind of what I had in mind before I started looking at the advantages (in my case) of a used cabinet saw. I’m seriously impressed with how solid those older Deltas are built…wow!

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#14 posted 772 days ago

After much plotting/scheming/soul-searching, I think the style saw that’s going to work best for my situation will be a ‘hybrid’ saw; something I can remove the legs from and mount into the new bench. Even though the cabinet models can be put on wheels, I’m afraid the extra weight is going to cause issues. Don’t get me wrong, I’m really impressed with just how well they’re constructed, I just need to apply logic at this time (rats!) and build what I really need for the job at hand. That said, nothing’s stopping me from grabbing a good deal on an old Unisaw and restoring it for future use! Time to read the hybrid reviews…

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#15 posted 768 days ago

...and with that said, I end up with a Jet JTAS-10XL for $500. :) It’s in excellent condition and came with a brand new, 3hp factory motor. Time to re-draw my work benches yet again. Thanks for all the help! Now if I can just figure out how to get it out of the back of my truck!

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