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boardmaker

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06-04-2012 01:49 AM

Hey guys,
It’s time to upgrade my miter saw. After reading and re-reading I have it narrowed down to the Milwaukee 6950-20 12” dual bevel and the Dewalt dw716.

Both look like excellent saws and have great reviews everywhere I have looked. The Milwaukee is 150$ more, but it comes with the LED lights for cutting where the Dewalt I would have to purchase separately. The Milwaukee also has digital readout, accurate to the tenth of a degree.

I am slightly leaning toward the Milwaukee, but I wanted to check with the collective before I made a 500$ purchase.

I am looking for a high quality saw that will last a long time. I wish I could afford the Festool, but I just don’t have the budget. The saw will be used mostly for cutting molding.

Thanks,
Lucas


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nwbusa

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#1 posted 06-04-2012 02:11 AM

You can add the LED to the DeWalt for $40 and it’s dead easy to do.

You mention that you want the Festool, which is a 10” slider. The DW716 is a 12” non-slider, very different saws. Just something to consider.

For what it’s worth, my DeWalt has given great service over the last year or so and when I upgrade it will be to the DW780.

Good luck!

-- John, BC, Canada

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Loren

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#2 posted 06-04-2012 03:24 AM

I doubt you’ll go wrong with either saw. I’ve owned a couple
of Dewalts and they were good saws. The Milwaukee appears
to have a better design for dust collection, if that matters
for the style of work you do.

I’ve got by without lasers on woodworking tools for my whole
working life.

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rance

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#3 posted 06-04-2012 03:51 AM

I stand behind my DW713. Accurate, and easilly adjustable if it gets out of adjustment. I’d suggest the DW over the Milwaukee. Then add the lights to it. Did you catch that, add the lights to it rather than lasers. I believe it is a better solution as the lights shine down the blade and shows you the shadow on your work. Google for ‘DWS7085 Miter-Saw LED Work Light System’.

Quite frankly, I don’t see why folks want a slider. They are more problematic and get out of alignment more easilly. And for what? Something the DIY-er might do .1 % of the time. For that, use a skill saw and save yourself some money and heartache.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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boardmaker

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#4 posted 06-04-2012 12:45 PM

Yeah, I realize the Dewalt is a non slider unlike the Festool. I was just saying that about the Festool because who doesn’t want one?

Rance, I was checking out the LED system on Amazon. The reviews say it even works good outside even if it’s sunny. So if I go yellow that is definitely the way I’m going. And I agree about the slider.

As far as the Milwaukee, my biggest selling point is the digital degrees to the tenth.

I was hoping to hear from someone who has used or owned both saws.

Thanks for the info guys, keep it up.

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KEP

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#5 posted 06-04-2012 01:49 PM

I have the Milwaukee 12 inch slider, I wanted the wide cutting ability but in reality I seldom make wide cuts. I just finished a basement and found having lights on both sides of the blade to be a welcomed asset. My basement had a lot of odd angles and the digital readout made repeating angles a breeze .

Its a great saw, the slider has a large footprint on my bench but by far the the best feature of this saw for me is the digital readout.

-- Ken

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dhazelton

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#6 posted 06-04-2012 01:51 PM

If you have the money to spend I’d also consider the Makita.

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boardmaker

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#7 posted 06-04-2012 02:44 PM

Kep,
Do you feel the digital readout is worth 150$? That’s really my selling point and I can see how it would be a big timesaver when hunting odd angles.

The dust collection is worth something too, but I have a feeling I won’t have trouble with either saw with my dust collector.

I just checked out the Makita. It’s nice, but I think I’m going yellow or red.

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KEP

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#8 posted 06-05-2012 12:12 AM

Lucas,
When I was looking I narrowed the decision down to the Milwaukee or the Festool. The Milwaukee was several hundred dollars cheaper and the digital readout was a bonus. I had trouble believing the Festool could be that much better. Maybe if I had tried the Festool I would have felt different but I didn’t.

I have used the Dewalt 12 inch slider and thought it was a nice saw but to me the Milwaukee seemed nicer. How much is the digital readout worth? For me being an amateur woodworker I want every advantage I can afford. So yes, to me it was worth the price; although if doing it again I would likely not get the slider.

Hope this helps.

-- Ken

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rance

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#9 posted 06-05-2012 04:33 PM

If you really want the digital, get a digital angle gauge to use with it. Then you can also use it to measure for crown molding and also with your miter gauge on your Table Saw. And a whole lot cheaper than $150. Just a thought.

Ken – For the Milwaukee, if it gets out of adjustment, how easy is it to re-adjust back to true?

One reason the Kapex is so accurate is the tilt scale is so far from the pivot point. Couple that with the stop notches and it is great. They also tout the best dust collection, hepa rated. So if you are working in someone else’s house, on carpet, it might be worth it. Not for me though. I never even use the bevel(ie. compound).

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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a1Jim

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#10 posted 06-05-2012 04:46 PM

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Tyrone D

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#11 posted 06-05-2012 08:21 PM

One thing that I really hate about the Dewalt is the guard. I prefer the clear plastic ones rather than then, well what the Dewalts or Hitachi’s have.

I have the Bosch 4410L and I love the thing to death. Everything about it is perfect in my opinion. The slider is dead accurate. I paid $450 for mine only because someone at Rona accidentally marked it as discontinued. I think the saw is around $600 now. You can even do dadoes, laps, notches and other similar things with it. It has an adjustable depth stop. Every control is up front, so no screwing around behind the saw.
My point is: Check out Bosch.

-- --Tyrone - BC, Canada "Nothing is ever perfect, we just run out of time."

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KEP

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#12 posted 06-05-2012 09:11 PM

Rance

If I Cut bevels and then return to 90 degrees I put my wixy on the blade. that is pretty simple. I’ve only done bevel cuts once. Mostly I use my table saw for that.

As for the miter portion I’ve never needed to change it from the factory settings so I don’t know what kind of process that is.

-- Ken

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boardmaker

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#13 posted 06-06-2012 01:29 AM

Tyrone,
Thanks for the lead on the Bosch, BUT holy cow. 900$ on amazon. That’s Festool territory. I really do like the front controls and depth stop. Wonderful ideas that all saws should incorporate.

I am really not very interested in sliders. For every person that says their slider cuts accurate miters, there are three that say theirs aren’t tight enough.

Really just want a 12” saw with a full kerf blade.

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Tyrone D

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#14 posted 06-06-2012 04:05 AM

Boardmaker,
I didn’t even realize the saw was so damned expensive. I got a very good deal then. I paid 450 for mine. Thank you minimum wage Rona employee!
My suggestion seems silly now. I though it was in the 500-600 range.

-- --Tyrone - BC, Canada "Nothing is ever perfect, we just run out of time."

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