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poopiekat

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808 days ago

I’ve got a perfectly good Stanley #12 scraper, with the opposed handles. It’s got no cutter! Just cleaned it up, and it looks like it ought to look now. Seeing the old-timer machinist at the flea market, he suggested finding the worst 2-man crosscut saw and cut a chunk out of it…. But if I bought one, lol, it would go right into my workshop, in case I need it! HOWEVER…I have a ton of ancient squares with brass and rosewood, so well-loved that the numbers don’t show anymore, prob 100 yrs old. Do I dare butcher one of these for use in my #12? What’s the morality here? Is it the proper grade of steel? Or would I be a meanie to kill an innocent square? Anyone tried this?

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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killerb

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#1 posted 808 days ago

I have no ideas what they use for stock in an old square. A lot of places sell new blades. I would just get a replacement and be done with it.
DominicGreco(REMOVE_ME)@Netscape.Net
Email this fellow. He sells blades for scrapers. Great blades. Very reasonable. He is the hand tool moderator on woodnet. Very nice and honest guy
bob

-- Bob www.bobkloes.com

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sikrap

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#2 posted 808 days ago

If Dominic can’t help, try Walt at www.brasscityrecords.com Not only is Walt a great guy to do business with, he’s something of a scraper junkie. If he doesn’t have a blade for you, he’s the guy that will know where they are.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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Loren

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#3 posted 808 days ago

James Krenov wrote that he’d get worn out band saw mill blades
and cut them up for scrapers. He probably only had to get one
in his whole career, but the point was made.

I have a no. 80 I found at a yard sale or something and it had
no blade. I cut a regular Sandvik scraper in half and used
that. The other half I made one or two curved scrapers
for mouldings from. The Sandvik was the right width…
2.75” or something.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Bluepine38

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#4 posted 807 days ago

If you can get the bandsaw mill blades that Loren mentioned, they are very good steel. I use a cutting wheel
on my grinder to cut them to rough size and then a belt sander and grinder to get to the finished size.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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Dallas

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#5 posted 807 days ago

I’m even cheaper. I bought a cheapo chinese hand saw at the dollar store for, you guessed it… a dollar.

It’s good stainless spring steel and I’ve made a half dozen scrapers with it so far and can probably get three more.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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David Kirtley

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#6 posted 807 days ago

For something as nice as the #12, I would go ahead and get a good replacement. Ron Hock makes a good one.

D.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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hairy

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#7 posted 807 days ago

Is it a user, or wall bling? http://www.hocktools.com/SB.htm

-- the last of Barret's Privateers...

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Don W

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#8 posted 807 days ago

I agree with the new blade group. The #12 is a pretty sought after scraper.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Bsmith

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#9 posted 807 days ago

I’ve used an old hand saw blade with very good results. You can get quite a few scrapers from one bend saw blade.

-- Bryan

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Dennisgrosen

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#10 posted 807 days ago

just send that NO. 12 over here and I will use it for you … :-)

new blade it deffently deserve

Dennis

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Infernal2

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#11 posted 807 days ago

Saw blades are pretty nice but in a pinch, I’ve bought cheap taping knives (for drwall) and put a burr on them. They are a lower quality spring steel but with proper sharpening and burnishing they take an edge REALLY well.

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cabmaker

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#12 posted 807 days ago

Many carpenters I have worked with made their own out of old handsaw blades. If it was a quality handsaw it will make a quality scraper blade. It was very common practice, and may still be. It is with me anyway. You will find old lifeless saws at most any antique store hanging in someones booth. they can usually be had for 3-6 bucks and will make four blades usually for a # 80.

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poopiekat

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#13 posted 807 days ago

Thanks for the great suggestions! Seems I am not alone in the desire to be resourceful… er cheap, that is! Yes I should shop around for a good replacement blade, but on the other hand I am surrounded with re-usable steel. This #12 will be a user, for sure, next time I do some veneer repairs.
Thanks for all the great suggestions!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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hairy

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#14 posted 807 days ago

I bought this without a blade at the flea. I put in a Hock blade, I got it from him at WIA last year. The blade cost more than the scraper, but what good is it without a blade? Now I just need to use it.

-- the last of Barret's Privateers...

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Don W

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#15 posted 807 days ago

I’ve used old handsaws for a few projects, but I would want the blade for a #12 to be a little heavier. I’ve wanted to try making a scraper plane using a blade made from a saw plate, but that project keeps slipping lower on the to-do list.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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