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06-03-2012 04:22 AM

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A friend of a friend has an old craftsman table saw they want to sell this week.model number 113.298470. Was hoping someone could enlighten me as to how good it would be. He sent me pics and the thing looks practically brand new. Best i can find with my current limited resources is that it is around 30 years old? He wants 200. Any advice would be appreciated.

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"


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#1 posted 06-03-2012 05:06 AM

what would be helpful here is if anybody knows when Sears officially plutoed the name ‘Roebuck’ from their corporate identity. I’m guessing 1970 or so. Anyone know for sure?
That logo looks early-mid 1960s for sure. If it has standard-size miter slots 3/4” X 3/8” and a solid, adjustable fence, and undoubtedly a cast-iron top, oh, and an external motor with v-belt drive, I’d say it’s a go.

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#2 posted 06-03-2012 05:31 AM

These are what he sent me

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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#3 posted 06-03-2012 05:35 AM

70ish 10” 1hp belt drive model made by Emerson electric. That model came with legs and 1 extension wing. If it’s in excellent shape, then the price is reasonable. Unfortunately, it’s very difficult to place a narrow date on most craftsman stuff because of their goofy model number system. If you really need to know when it was made, you could probably surf the old sears catalogs and publications online to narrow it down a bit :)

Cheers,
Brad

edit: based on those pictures, it looks like its never been used!!

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#4 posted 06-03-2012 05:38 AM

Looks practically brand new, told me it was kept stored in a garage. His neighbor moved and couldnt take it with them

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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#5 posted 06-03-2012 06:02 AM

It looks like the left side extension is missing, but otherwise I agree with the assessment that it looks unused.

$200 should find a buyer.

The owner’s manual is here.

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#6 posted 06-03-2012 06:20 AM

Thanks for the imput so far, told friend to pass on that i was interested hope he doesnt find someone else to buy first.. sadly i cant go pick it up till after this coming wednesday

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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#7 posted 06-03-2012 10:31 AM

That is in nice shape. Around here, it’s not hard to find saws like this used in average condition for $100-$150 with steel wings, stock fence, and no wheels, but considering the condition, $200 isn’t too bad IMO, though I don’t think it’s a steal. Things like cast iron wings, mobile base, router table, upgraded fence, etc., would make it a real nice buy at $200….do you suppose he’d take $175 from you if you want it? With aftermarket fence like the Delta T2 for $153 shipped, good alignment, and a decent blade, this could make a nice saw for someone.

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#8 posted 06-03-2012 10:31 AM

I have 4 of those table saws. Emmerson makes them. The fence clamp system changed. Yours is identical to the one I bought NEW in 1976. I bought mine without the extension or the stand. Mine came with 1hp motor. After using mine this many years I would certainly pay that much for it, it appears to be looked after (no rust).
(The reason I have 4 is : each one has different size motor, The last one is 3hp and I paid $250.(Included accessories, xtra extensions.)

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#9 posted 06-06-2012 10:49 PM

This looks identical to the saw I purchased in 1977. I still have it and it has stood up well for 35 years.

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#10 posted 06-08-2012 03:25 AM

+1 on knotscott’s comments. adding a t-2 gets you something like this:

rock solid performer. $200 is a little rich (i cobbled mine together from 2 saws and several sources at a net cost of $145) for that saw with the stamped wings and OEM fence, but you’re buying the condition and a made in the usa by emerson electric TS. good luck.

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#11 posted 06-08-2012 05:15 AM

This saw is newer than my craftsman but there doesn’t seem to be that much different.

In fact when I want an addition support for the rip fence I found out that replacement parts are no longer available. Mine has a cast iron top. One thing you have to watch, at least I do on mine, is that when tilting the blade the only stiffness is supplied by the sheet metal base. Adding MDF or actual metal to that side will help but also increase the weight!

About 12 years of use I installed turned pulleys and twist lock belt. That took a lot of the vibration and noise out of the drive system. I typically use Forrest blades and blade stiffner which also helped the overall performance.

I have three cast aluminum table extensions but I do not use them. I added a Benchdog cast iron nrouter table to it about 5 years ago and it fit like a glove!

In the time I have had it the only part I had to replace was the motor capacitor.

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#12 posted 06-09-2012 02:25 AM

well the guy hasnt gotten back with me or my buddy, so not sure whats up with it, hope i here form them soon. Seen one on Craigslist, in rougher shape, rusted top etc, but with cast wings, for 135 i may go for.

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

#13 posted 06-09-2012 03:30 AM

I started out with one just like that one. Mine wasn’t near the shape that one is in. Very good saws. It should sell just fine.

-- It is fun to see where an imagination and two bored saws will get you.

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#14 posted 06-09-2012 10:38 PM

Justin,

If you want the three aluminum table extensions PM me and we can negotiate a price fair to both of us, assuming you get this saw!

Like I said, I have had mine for, I estimate, that it is at least 30 years old. The only real wear it shows is on the top as the center is about. 008” lower than the front and back edges and all I can attribute that to is years of sliding wood across this area.

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#15 posted 06-09-2012 10:45 PM

I bought the two wing version off craigslist a couple years back for $100, not in quite as nice of shape as that but close, fwiw.

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