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harriw

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05-31-2012 12:15 PM

Hey folks,

Came across this yesterday:

http://rochester.craigslist.org/tls/3045781678.html

Is that the craftsman version of the Ridgid TS2424/TS2412 saws (last ones made by Emerson I believe)? He said the model number is T55HK-499 but I’m not finding much about it. I’m not too thrilled with the look of this fence, but if the guts are the same as the Ridgid it might be a good base to build on. The table and wings look like they’re in fantastic shape too (the webbing pattern on the wings and the stand look identical to the Ridgid saws which got me thinking).

I’m wondering if I could talk him down a bit because of the fence, put an aftermarket fence on it, and have a nice saw for a reasonable price?

Thanks again!

-Bill

-- Bill - Western NY


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#1 posted 05-31-2012 12:34 PM

That looks a lot like my saw, in fact, exactly like my saw. All I can say is that my saw does not have a 3 hp motor more like 1 1/16. That would be the first thing to check the hp rating on the motor. I bought mine new in the late 80’s. It looks to be in good shape though, if you buy it plan on replacing the the rip fence. I’d be skeptical of the hp rating because most 3 hp motors are 220 volt. So maybe you can use that to get him to come down if it is not as advertised.

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#2 posted 05-31-2012 12:37 PM

I’m not sure I would agree it is “heavy duty” and I’m curious about the 3hp motor as I’m pretty certain they came with 1.5hp motors. Most likely you’d want to replace that fence asap. Not too good at dating saws but it looks 15+ years old to me.

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#3 posted 05-31-2012 12:41 PM

I saw that too. Looks to be in good shape, but price is a little high. It’s essentially the same saw as the Ridgid contractor saws. You’d likely want to upgrade the fence, so figure that into your total outlay. It’s realistically closer to 1.5hp, but could be a good saw at the right price.

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#4 posted 05-31-2012 12:52 PM

I used to have that saw. It’s sweet, but throw the fence away and get a better one. It’s extrememly heavy and I never had a problem with it. The motor HP really doesn’t matter because of the belt drive system. If you dog it the belt will slip but the motor won’t stop. The price is good too, in the 80’s it went for $650.00

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Mainiac Matt

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#5 posted 05-31-2012 12:59 PM

FWIW….

I have the same saw, but with the newer style fence. It is EXACTLY the same as the old Ridgid contractor saws and the accessories are interchangeable. I have the Ridgid mobile base and plastic funnel hook up for DC on the bottom of my saw….

The saw is advertised as 3 HP….. but they played the “peak HP” game…. which means that during the current surge associated with starting the saw (last for ~1/4 sec) the current drawn x the voltage equates to 3 HP. The saw comes pre-wired to run on a 15 amp, 120 v circuit….. In reality, it’s about a 1.5 HP motor.

That said…. it’s a good saw. I bought mine on clearance when Emerson stopped making them for Sears about 12 years ago for ~$400. And as stated, the newer saws have a better fence.

I’m If you get the saw and the blade to miter slot alignment is not spot on already, get a set of saw pals for it and you’re alignments will be MUCH easier.still using mine…. and with a good blade it cuts clean and true.

I don’t think anyones going to bite at $250…. so make him an offer south of $200 and leave him your number and after a month of no bites, he may give you a call.

Good things come to those who can wait.

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#6 posted 05-31-2012 02:02 PM

Don’t know what the older Craftsman saws run in your area, but I usually see them on CL for around $150 around here. Granted, it looks like that saw has been better taken care of than most, but 250 still seems a bit steep.

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#7 posted 05-31-2012 03:08 PM

Saw is only worth $150 IMO. Add a Bies fence, PALS and cast iron router table and you will have a decent setup on the cheap. It will, however, always be a table mounted trunion saw.

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#8 posted 05-31-2012 03:35 PM

+1 re: most of lieutenantdan’s comments. i have two saws like that, a 2412 and a c-man. that fence is marginal at best and would be something to replace asap. table mouted truniuon saws perform just as well as cabinet mounted trunion saws, at least for 98% of what hobbyist woodworkers encounter or attempt. at $250, it’s overpriced.

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harriw

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#9 posted 05-31-2012 11:43 PM

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the input everyone!

I had finally figured out that craftsman plays the “peak HP” game on these saws too. I have a 33gal craftsman compressor that they play the same game with.

I’d forgotten about the stand – between needing a new fence and a mobile stand to go with it this one’s getting a bit pricey. I may give him a call and see if I can get it cheap. As mentioned, it will probably be available for a while given his asking price. Thanks again!

-Bill H

-- Bill - Western NY

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#10 posted 06-01-2012 12:28 AM

It’s been for sale for a while, so make an offer. Worst they can do is say no (and maybe call you names!). Don’t be afraid to mention that it’ll need a better fence to be competitive with newer saws, and that you’ll need to figure that into the total cost.

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