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Quailtail

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05-28-2012 08:12 PM

I recently bought a used Delta 36-600 table saw that appeared to have been used very little. On the second 2/2 I tried to rip, the motor burned to a crisp. Took the motor to a repair shop and was advised the armature was trashed, no cost effective way to repair. A new motor for this saw is nearly 200.00. I can not see putting that into a motor.

I am not interested in another direct drive saw. What should I look for and how much should I pay for a good table saw that will be used spairingly. I have checked Craigs list and the used belt driven saws are 200 to 300.00. Sounds high for saws that have been around for 10 to 15 years.

The Ridgid saw has a lifetime warranty at 499.00. I really did not want to put this much money into a saw but, the motors on the direct drives are just too costly to replace.


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#1 posted 05-28-2012 08:29 PM

A used good contractor saw off cl is easily “worth” a couple of hundred bucks. The ridgid for $500 should have additional safety features (riving knife) as well as a mobile base. You will still need a good blade, which can be as important as the saw. I personally would lean towards the new saw, for ease of buying and warranty. But, if the budget is tight, plenty of good used options can be found. Welcome to ljs.

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#2 posted 05-28-2012 08:30 PM

The thing I’m most concerned about is why the motor burned up in the Delta. If I were you, I’d make sure your electric supply is at least a 20 amp breaker, (not a fuse). I’d check the amperage to the plug. Nothing will burn up a motor like starving it of the necessary amps it needs to work. Don’t use extension cords either, they rarely can handle the amps.

That being said the R4512 by Ridgid is a decent saw with a solid fence. I have one and love it.

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#3 posted 05-28-2012 08:38 PM

You can expect to pay around 400 – 500 for a good used contractor style saw (powermatic 64a for example-that’s what I paid for one 5 years ago)they are great saws and as long as they are healthy, will last a long time – If you are going to be or get serious then don’t waste you’re money on a cheap saw – the table saw is the backbone of any shop and you will regret a few dollars saved. You’d be better off waiting till you had the funds to get a decent rig. And yes, the power supply is very important, when I set up my garage shop I rewired the whole place with dedicated lines for the big machines….

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Quailtail

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#4 posted 05-28-2012 10:03 PM

Is the Ridgid a belt driven or direct drive saw?

I don’t mind the direct drive if the motor has a lifetime warranty.

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#5 posted 05-28-2012 10:11 PM

More than likely, that saw had serious problems when you bought it. It should take more than 2 rips to burn it up.

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#6 posted 05-29-2012 12:21 AM

The 36-600 has a universal motor. If the brushes were worn, or as Russell suggested, if the electrical supply was starving the motor of amperage by using a long thin extension cord or a marginal circuit, they’re a bit more prone to frying than many induction motors.

A full size contractor saw with a belt drive induction motor is step up from your 36-600. Many last for decades without issue, and most are worth repairing if there is an issue. Many are definitely worth $100-$400, and a few are worth $500 and even $600 used IMHO, depending on what saw, what fence, and what’s on them. The table area is larger, they’re heavier, have more torque, are much quieter, are more reliable, more feasible to fix, and they’ll accept more accessories and upgrades than a compact saw like the 36-600. Most full size contractor saws are very similar to each other and many will accept parts and accessories from other contractor saws of a different brand….fences, miter gauge, switch, motors, wings, leg stands, etc.

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#7 posted 05-30-2012 01:26 AM

+1 on knotscott’s comments. but for the record, ridgid’s (belt drive) 4512 DOES NOT CARRY A LIFETIME WARRANTY!!!! it carries a 3 year warranty and a bench or stationary power tool’s first owner may register the tool with ridgid’s lifetime service agreement. the full terms are here: http://www.ridgid.com/tools/power-tool-warranty . the 4512 has many good features and i’m a big fan of ridgid, but that saw has had a problem with blade to miter slot parallelism. some of the posts on the ridgid forum indicate that it’s parallelism changes as the blade height is adjusted. this means when set for cutting 1/2” plywood, the blade is parallel, but if ripping 4/4 stock, the blade is not parallel to the miter slot. THAT’S a problem. not all the saws do this, but some do. if you get a good one, it appears to be a great saw. if you can find a HD that will honor the harbor freight “20% off any single item” coupon, the saw could be had for $400 plus tax.

personally, i’m off buying new stationary power tools. CL provides just too many bargains in my area. i just got this unisaw for $100, but that will be recouped when i turn in the recall eligible c-man RAS that was included in the purhcase. so the $100 price is offset by the recall rebate. my out of pocket so far is $40 in gas money:

and don’t forget those hard to kill emerson electric built c-man 10” CI TSs. they always pop up on CL for between $100 & $200. CI top, 1.5hp emerson electric belt drive motor, some have CI extension wings and the older those saws are, the more solid are the arbor cradles and trunion assemblies. slap a t-2 on one of those and this is what you get:

this c-man cost me $145 net and was cobbled together from two saws. good luck with your search.

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#8 posted 05-30-2012 01:37 AM

Welcome to Ljs
I for one would never buy a saw and restore it for a couple reasons first I hate that kind of work and secondly even when you have the saw restored you usually have a out dated saw with a poor fence and a undersized table and many times a under powered motor. you get all this and spend as much or more than a good used saw goes for . I know there are lots of people who enjoy doing this kind of work and like the end results and don’t mind the investment.
This is a subject that comes up almost daily I would suggest doing a search on Ljs besides your post.

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#9 posted 06-01-2012 12:48 AM

I am still looking for a good used saw. Leaning toward a new one, the Ridgid 4512. Seems that it would be cheaper in the long run to buy new, with the lifetime warranty. Does anyone know if the 4512 has a riving knife? Don’t see anything in the description or specifications that says it does or doesn’t.

Would appreciate someone that owns one to let me know please.

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#10 posted 06-01-2012 01:05 AM

I don’t own an R4512, but I do know that it definitely has a riving knife. It’s important to note “Toolie’s” comments about the Ridgid Lifetime Service Agreement…the full warranty is 3 years. Read the agreement to see what’s truly covered by the LSA and what’s not.

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