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flatboarder

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05-24-2012 01:24 AM

Topic tags/keywords: joining

Hello wooworkers , Im having a design problem and was hoping that I could get some advice on what to do here .Im trying to build a buffet for a lady . My problem is
1) the weight .
2) upper and lower dividers joinery into the corners .
X 21” wide x 56” long The top divider is 3/4” thick x 4 1/2” wide x 51” long The lower divider is the same but its 5 1/2” below the top one . I have two partitions spaced 10 1/2” apart from the center. In the center there is a flush mounted drawer and on each side there is a 19 1/2” drawer. So up top there are three drawers total. The corner post are made up from 2 1/2” square riftsawn cherry.
Distance. I really dont want to put a dummy apron there because the buffet is solid cherry and I need to be mindful of the weight.? So what can I do . On the dividers I suppose I could use double tenons , so if I was to tenons the doublers they would be all over the double tenons of the divider . I hope this all makes sense. Im really worried about the weight on this thing since Im not using plywood anywhere. Any suggestions would be very appreciative. Thanks Chris

My problem is two fold . One is my sides are flush with the outside post. With 3/4” thick rails .so I have 13/4” space from the rail to the inside of the post . I need to Attach my doublers to something And I have 1 3/4”

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?


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#1 posted 05-24-2012 01:46 AM

On your 2nd concern some of the sentence is missing, I think. Maybe draw a picture?
Thanks Mr. Chris.

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#2 posted 05-24-2012 03:26 AM

Yeah thats crazy . I did edit just to be sure because I saw that. But when I checked it on the edit page it was fine . Sorry .

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?

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#3 posted 05-24-2012 03:31 AM

How do you draw a pitcure and post it?

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?

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#4 posted 05-24-2012 05:18 AM

How do you draw a pitcure and post it?

Well, I can tell you several ways:
1. Use MS Paint/SketchUp/Photoshop/etc. and freehand it. Probably won’t look good but you can save it as a JPG, PNG, TIF, etc. and upload it (hit the “img” button right above the reply box).

2. Sketch it on paper and either scan it in, take a picture with a digital camera/phone. Load to computer. Upload it like #1.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#5 posted 05-24-2012 06:11 AM

My problem is two fold . One is my sides are flush with the outside post. With 3/4” thick rails .so I have 13/4” space from the rail to the inside of the post . I need to Attach my doublers to something And I have 1 3/4”
Distance. I really dont want to put a dummy apron there because the buffet is solid cherry and I need to be mindful of the weight.? So what can I do . On the dividers I suppose I could use double tenons , so if I was to tenons the doublers they would be all over the double tenons of the divider . I hope this all makes sense. Im really worried about the weight on this thing since Im not using plywood anywhere. Any suggestions would be very appreciative. Thanks Chris
This is the rest of my question that was cut off. Sorry

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?

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#6 posted 05-24-2012 06:59 AM

You’re doing a modern thing so you don’t want to put a
skirt under a horizontal web-frame below the drawers?

Go with 1” or 1.25” on the top and you can probably successfully
suspend 1 row of drawers from a 60” span. Doing it with
a 3/4” top in cherry might work but over time the unit
may become swaybacked. It is hard to predict and there
are hedges to get around. In general designers and clients
who don’t know to build have unrealistic expectations of
beam strength in narrow sections… they expect narrow
wood x-sections to behave like square steel tubing.

You really need to either overbuild or post dimensioned
drawings here.

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#7 posted 05-25-2012 06:20 AM

I applogize folks that my question got so messed up, I have no idea why that happened. I figured out the problem anyhow. Im going to just glue the doublers and the guides to the runners. I’ll post some pitcures when I’m finnished with the buffet. Thanks for the help anyway.

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?

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